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Post by Nord Ronnoc on Oct 17, 2012 4:34:33 GMT 1
Well... Obama flat-out said he wants to re-instate the old Assault Weapons Ban. Never mind that gun ownership among law-abiding citizens is at an all-time high with violent crime at a 30+ year low... I know, resident gun nut up in arms over my guns, but considering the premise of "what's good for the goose is good for the gander"... how about the 4th, 5th, 10th, and 1st Ammendments? Any ban on the 2nd I can easily re-word to the rest of the Constitution.THAT is what worries me and, historically, is what happens once guns/arms are out of the way. This, I agree. Romney hit the nail on the head when he discussed the Fast & Furious scandal, along with the proposed gun control laws. I can back him up on that one.
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Post by Clint Johnston on Oct 17, 2012 5:14:29 GMT 1
Listened on the radio. They were both full of it, though Obama wasn't pulling punches this time. Romney's ideas on women & immigration were so much horseshit. Regardless of how well the economy is doing, if an employer has a choice between hiring a female employee who requires flexible hours and a male who doesn't, he/she/it is going to hire the one who is more available.
As for immigration, he talks all about supporting small businesses and then later switches topics to say the gov't will sanction businesses which hire illegal immigrants. Um... A) they're not on the books, and B ) Small, large, or medium, businesses will hire the cheapest labor. How's your "fixed economy" going to function when the no one will do the blue collar work for less than $10/ hour?
And Obama did not do much better. Asked to talk about assault rifles, he tells a strange story about the aurora shooting (which featured semi-automatic weapons) and how education will fix the violent world we live in. (Ever studied history Mr. President? They were just as violent back in the day when no one could read or write.)
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Post by Warhammer Gorvar on Oct 17, 2012 9:49:24 GMT 1
I found the debate interesting with some fat beats. then tihngs got weird when....well you know.
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Post by jklinders on Oct 17, 2012 10:11:08 GMT 1
I found the debate interesting with some fat beats. then tihngs got weird when....well you know. Lincoln summed up my opinion perfectly. Stop voting for the shiniest of 2 turds. And stop being so defeatest by the difficulty of doing so.
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Post by Mister Buch on Oct 17, 2012 11:40:54 GMT 1
I'd say Lincoln is over-simplifying it. ALL politicians are turds. That's the nature of it. Truly great people don't run for office because they have better things to do.
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Post by Warhammer Gorvar on Oct 17, 2012 11:45:33 GMT 1
You know the point I was trying to make with the video was to make you lot laugh, not over analyse it. What the hell is wrong with you people?!
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Post by Mister Buch on Oct 17, 2012 11:50:17 GMT 1
LOL
I would also say that Obama's rapping skills are poor!
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Post by Warhammer Gorvar on Oct 17, 2012 11:57:26 GMT 1
But they cant be, he;s black.
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Post by CAPT Issac R. Madden on Oct 17, 2012 12:04:09 GMT 1
Unless he's at certain venues where he claims he kinda isn't...
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Post by CAPT Issac R. Madden on Oct 17, 2012 12:09:47 GMT 1
Watching a couple of the clips now. Looks like the moderator was running interferance for Obama when Romney was about to hammer him for the 12 days of not calling the attacks in Libya terror attacks. She literally interrupted him and deliberately threw him off as he was making his point.
Another example is when Romney was hitting the Fast and Furious scandal. In the transcript, Obama literally prompted the moderator to change the subject while Romney was making his point.
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Post by Nord Ronnoc on Oct 17, 2012 22:43:25 GMT 1
There's going to be one last debate for the election next week, from what I've heard. Anyone planning on watching the debate (or listen to it/read the transcript)?
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Post by jklinders on Oct 17, 2012 22:53:34 GMT 1
Shouldn't the track record of these candidates be far more important than sound bites in a debate?
Whoa, never mind. Expecting people to actually research the stuffed shirt they vote for is way too much to ask.
Both have pretty shite track records in various ways.
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Post by Mister Buch on Oct 17, 2012 22:59:53 GMT 1
Shouldn't the track record of these candidates be far more important than sound bites in a debate? Here here.
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Post by CAPT Issac R. Madden on Oct 18, 2012 0:38:16 GMT 1
Considering Obama's track record in making shit worse instead of better (even though he had a filibuster-proof majority in Congress for the first half of his term and could have rubber-stamped anything) and a foreign policy that makes Neville Chamberlain look like Henry Kissenger?
That's not even getting into his Senate voting record or his pre-political background (ties to Bill Ayers of the Weather Underground, among others).
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Post by Clint Johnston on Oct 27, 2012 4:26:32 GMT 1
Oh God... Clint is resurrecting the politics thread again? Wait... with a Sean Penn movie? He must be drunk or something... Just watch it.
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