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Post by Mister Buch on Mar 7, 2010 21:50:56 GMT 1
It's been a while since I've had any pet hates...
1) Actors on adverts pretending to be 'real people' interviewed by the company. It's a bare-faced lie. I hate this!
2) People using the phrases, 'one hundred and ten percent', 'a thousand percent', 'a hundred percent and then a little bit more' etc. There is no such thing as more than 100 percent!! That's the whole point of the percentage system!
3) People using the word 'gay' as an insult / negative description. Why is this still tolerated......
4) Lady GaGa.
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Post by Rascarin on Mar 7, 2010 22:10:53 GMT 1
I agree with you, 200%.
;D
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Post by Zarsthor on Mar 8, 2010 1:51:43 GMT 1
Gay, the definition according to Encarta UK
full of light-heartedness and merriment brightly coloured having or showing a carefree spirit leading a debauched or dissolute life
Far worse insults in the world.
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Post by Mister Buch on Mar 8, 2010 12:52:44 GMT 1
At Scarin - I hate you.
At Zars -
Obviously there is the original definition of the word 'gay', but that's really irrelevant here.
When somebody says "That's so gay" they don't mean it's happy! They're equating badness with homosexuality. They're using the name of my people (and I do count myself among that people, even with only half a membership) as an insult.
This is a very BIG pet hate for me! Sorry if I seem very aggressive on this. I just hate that it continues, and is permitted.
I've heard this crap on the radio and telly, and I hear it every single day at work and on the streets. How come it's not more frowned-upon?
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Simon Amstell made a great crack about it - hang on...
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Post by Zarsthor on Mar 8, 2010 16:22:18 GMT 1
I do agree with ya Buch, as a member of the people to (even if my membership is being looked at for suspenscion following a three year relationship with a member of the opposite sex), but I personally see it as the same with Black people using derrogative terms for White people and vice versa. There's a bit of racism in everybody and freedom of speech is still legal. Personally I don't care if someone says "You're so Gay." in front of me or "Look at that cracker." It's just some words people like to use to insult other people. I'd much rather they stopped insulting each other than stop using terms to describe a particular people. It's the hate that bothers me. The only way you can stop racism is to destroy race and that would be a tragic thing because we'd lose some much from our culture and nobody could belong to a 'group' anymore. As human beings we instinctually need to feel we belong but belonging to a group comes a with a price. It's the struggles that define us not the group itself. Without that point of interception and overlap we'd fail to evolve and discover new ways of thought. Like taking all the bad from somebodies life. When something uncontrollable happens to them they're going to die of freight because the concept was never breached to them slowly, allowed to sink in it just happened like a overload in the system. I don't agree with racism but I think it serves some ulterior motive. I could run through some examples where in racism has actually created good in the world, poetry, music, colour. It's misplaced passion taking on the dark undertones and it's oddly beautiful how it shapes the world around it pulling between black and white until you'll pulled intot he grey.
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Post by Mister Buch on Mar 8, 2010 16:35:15 GMT 1
Weeeeeeeeeeell. You make good points there. But I do disagree. I won't tolerate 'You're / that's so gay' and I find it inexcusably homophobic. Anyway. Pet hates. ---- And a new entry, Anna Faris:
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Post by Zarsthor on Mar 8, 2010 16:55:04 GMT 1
Just don't let that intolerence lead to a dark place Buch. Just look at George Bush JR and see where that leads.
What Anna Ferris ever do to you?
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Post by Mister Buch on Mar 9, 2010 0:36:44 GMT 1
"We will not STAND for this intolerance!!"
Paul Merton said that once on 'Have I Got News For You'. I always remember it and laugh when I get passionate about pushing equality.
Anyway. I'm fine, thank you. Not quite up to invading the Middle East, yet.
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Post by Hodster on Mar 11, 2010 18:06:48 GMT 1
Well the thing is that my oldest nephew is gay and he uses the word gay in a negative way all the time. He'll be like that's gay or your gay as a insult even tho he is actually gay. I have also heard other gay people use the word gay in a negative light as well. So the majority of the time people arn't being homophobic but it's just a insult that is used right now.
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Post by Cali on Mar 11, 2010 21:15:11 GMT 1
People who are genuinely offended by the word "Gay" as an insult have some decent reason, but they have to realize the word doesn't officially mean what it means in the first place.
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Post by Jax Tel 101 on Mar 11, 2010 23:14:38 GMT 1
That is all I have to say on that matter. Now what REALLY bugs me is this: Why the hell even bother wearing the belt if you're just going to let your pants hang below your ass? And if someone says fashion statement, I'm gonna scream.
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Post by Cali on Mar 11, 2010 23:22:12 GMT 1
I think the reason they wear a belt is so the pants themselves cannot hang any lower.
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Post by Mr. Glow on Mar 11, 2010 23:27:52 GMT 1
The belt would also make a handy improvised weapon if you were mocked.
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Post by Cali on Mar 12, 2010 0:13:12 GMT 1
The belt would also make a handy improvised weapon if you were mocked. Yes, but you risk the possibility of your pants falling off entirely, therefore losing the fight by default. EDIT: My new avatar makes everything I say awesome.
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Post by Mister Buch on Mar 12, 2010 0:26:29 GMT 1
- Buch's final discussion of the 'so gay' thing... I promise I won't say another word on the matter after this. -
I know a lot of gay people now use 'that's so gay' and I find this even more infuriating than when straight people use it. Homophobes invented this trend - as a discriminatory insult - and now it has caught on and become so mainstream that only me and Simon Amstell seem to see the hatred in it.
And yeah... I know the word gay has two meanings, but yes it DOES officially mean homosexual. That's in the dictionary - that's official. The meaning changed. It has two meanings now. Words constantly change meaning or develop new ones. Usually it annoys me when it happens in modern times. But this is the one example when I'm happy about it, and very proud of it too.
My point is...
The original definition of 'gay' has nothing to do with the word being used as an insult or NEGATIVE description, i.e. 'That's so gay'. This is a phrase invented recently to give gay a third meaning - now it means 1) happy, 2) homosexual 3) bad. The third one exists because of homophobia. This is undeniable. The third meaning is not yet in the dictionary. I really, deeply hope it never is.
It's like Randall Graves and his 'porch monkeys'. You can't 'take it back'. It exists to insult a people.
I shouldn't have put this in 'pet hates'. This is a real, emotional hate for me - I have very few! But this is one of them.
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