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Post by jklinders on Apr 1, 2013 2:28:36 GMT 1
this one set my blood to boiling this morning when I heard about it on the news. news.nationalpost.com/2013/03/25/no-apology-from-tory-cabinet-minister-for-telling-high-school-student-leader-shell-make-a-wonderful-wife-someday/Short version is that a federal minister was at an event designed to help promote the government's budget when he was offered food by a young woman. He complemented her on the food food saying she would make someone a good wife someday. The result was a firestorm of controversy across the country that he was being profoundly sexist towards the woman. Demands from the opposition for an apology and twitter being general twits. Honestly, I do not see the sexism here. This was in my opinion a simple complement that could easily apply to either gender. Men and women are both cooking in the households these days. My brother cooks. I cook. No one would accuse either of us of being effeminate. Possibly because either of us is substantially larger than the average guy. The young woman in question publicly stated that there was no offense taken and that folks took the politician's comment out of context. This has slowed the issue down not at all. I am pretty upset that no one anywhere can say a fucking thing these days without fear of being oppressed by the political correctness police. The supposed victim here says there was no crime but no one wants to move on. Enough already! The above was said in spite of the fact that the governing party here in Canada right now is a knuckle dragging pack of neanderthals with a social policy agenda better suited to the 19th century than the 21st. I just happen to feel in this case the opposition is dead wrong and should get to more serious business.
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Post by Lily Ariel Linders on Apr 1, 2013 2:52:19 GMT 1
Oh boy.
I agree with you there, Linders... that comment was a compliment to the young woman's cooking talent, not a sexist bit of chauvinism... what was he supposed to say - the food sucks so you'd best think of an out-of-home career? Yeesh.
With the modern household having both men and women cook (and in our own home, where you do the vast majority of the cooking (aka: all of the cooking ;D), I honestly don't see the problem with that man's comment.
For the love of all that is holy - the girl in question even said she was not offended! Should that not be enough to shut up the raving lunatics??
Political correctness is no longer politically correct... it's now a damn shite-storm that sets people off faster than you can say shite.
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Post by CAPT Issac R. Madden on Apr 1, 2013 3:01:09 GMT 1
"Political correctness" is nothing more than censorship. Plain and simple.
People these days get offended over the tiniest things. Some of them just need a high five... in the face... with a chair... made of steel.
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Post by Mister Buch on Apr 1, 2013 3:52:32 GMT 1
The opposite of above.
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Post by CAPT Issac R. Madden on Apr 1, 2013 4:08:53 GMT 1
Ok. So if people don't like what you say, you should be bullied into not saying it. I know a lot of people don't like the LGBT crowd; so does that make it ok for them to tell you to bugger off when you talk about gay rights? (Personally, I don't think this way at all; people should be allowed to express their views). You really need to stop being lazy and not simply say "opposite of above" and actually read what I'm saying.
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Post by Mr. Glow on Apr 1, 2013 4:50:09 GMT 1
"Political correctness" is nothing more than censorship. Plain and simple. People these days get offended over the tiniest things. Some of them just need a high five... in the face... with a chair... made of steel. Political correctness is the ultimate form of self-expression. It's very complicated. Inanimate objects in the past were too forgiving of massive sleights. None of them... need a low zero... in the feet... with a table... made of cotton. I agree with Buch.
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Post by CAPT Issac R. Madden on Apr 1, 2013 4:56:33 GMT 1
"Political correctness" is nothing more than censorship. Plain and simple. People these days get offended over the tiniest things. Some of them just need a high five... in the face... with a chair... made of steel. Obvious troll is obvious. Political correctness is the ultimate form of self-expression. It's very complicated. Inanimate objects in the past were too forgiving of massive sleights. None of them... need a low zero... in the feet... with a table... made of cotton. I agree with Buch.
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Post by Clint Johnston on Apr 1, 2013 6:05:22 GMT 1
I think what people are taking offense to is the idea that cooking is merely a gift for one's home. Obviously the man meant no harm, but he should have left it at "You're a great cook"
In addition, people need to calm the fuck down. 3 examples
1) The people that are hyper over a conservative white male saying something his generation considered a great compliment. He is what he is. I would be more offended if he tried to be something he's not.
2) People being so outraged over other people being outraged that they think hypothetical violence is the solution. Idiots will be idiots. Our expressions of hypothetical violence do nothing to resolve the situation.
3) People who allow a minor expression to so aggravate them that they are unable to explain their opinion on an issue. Was anyone attacking anyone here? No. Call it youthful exuberance, or a different personality, but a trite dismissal is not fair to anyone, least of all our creative minds.
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Post by lieden on Apr 1, 2013 7:38:25 GMT 1
That was an idiotic thing to say to a young girl, regardless. I'd call the reaction storm in a teacup but I think he needed to feel acutely embarrassed about that comment.
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Post by Warhammer Gorvar on Apr 1, 2013 9:32:05 GMT 1
There was no harm done here as far as i can see. If people wanna rage at something, rage at Micheal Bay for fucking up before it even starts.
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Post by jklinders on Apr 1, 2013 10:08:13 GMT 1
I think what people are taking offense to is the idea that cooking is merely a gift for one's home. Obviously the man meant no harm, but he should have left it at "You're a great cook" In addition, people need to calm the fuck down. 3 examples 1) The people that are hyper over a conservative white male saying something his generation considered a great compliment. He is what he is. I would be more offended if he tried to be something he's not. 2) People being so outraged over other people being outraged that they think hypothetical violence is the solution. Idiots will be idiots. Our expressions of hypothetical violence do nothing to resolve the situation. 3) People who allow a minor expression to so aggravate them that they are unable to explain their opinion on an issue. Was anyone attacking anyone here? No. Call it youthful exuberance, or a different personality, but a trite dismissal is not fair to anyone, least of all our creative minds. This comment wins the thread. Peace out folks. Back on topic. It may have been something that could be taken the wrong way, but if the party that was addressed says no problem that should have been the end of it. It's gone from a harmlessly out of date comment (this guy is not young and folks from his generation used that as a compliment for a long time, does sensitivity not go both ways?) to a useless expression of partisan politics that adds nothing to any debate. We have a budget coming out soon in this country and this is all our official opposition can go on about? brilliant.
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Post by Cali on Apr 1, 2013 17:28:28 GMT 1
I think I may just hunt you all down and kill every one of you at some point.
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Post by Cali on Apr 1, 2013 17:30:11 GMT 1
Whoa, Zoloft just kicked in.
What were we talking about, guys?
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Post by jklinders on Apr 1, 2013 17:33:19 GMT 1
Just when I thought we had hit our quota of pointless hyperbole...
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Post by jklinders on Apr 1, 2013 17:34:16 GMT 1
Whoa, Zoloft just kicked in. What were we talking about, guys? Maybe you should tell me as I am trying to decide if I should be pissed at you or not...
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