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Post by Lily Ariel Linders on Apr 2, 2013 23:07:42 GMT 1
What about telling a man who can cook extremely well that he'd make a good husband? Is that as 'offensive'? No it's not. Because men don't have a history of being made to cook and serve for women. Oh boy. I really hate double standards.
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Post by Mister Buch on Apr 2, 2013 23:56:53 GMT 1
It's really not a double standard - that's not what I meant. Not any kind of standard. It's the context of the words. What he may have meant by it changes depending on the context. Like: If a guy says 'Nice weather' on a sunny day he's probably not being sarcastic. But if he says that same thing on a cold day or inside a cave, he MAY be.
Calling a young white man 'boy' isn't going to be considered racist by anyone, no matter how old he is or what you meant by it. But calling an adult black man 'boy' may be racist. I'm not saying that it IS racist, just that it might be. There are lots of reasons to call a person boy, but it is statistically likely (somewhat likely anyway) that in this context, racism was a motivating factor.
And this one: Telling a man who can cook that he'd make a good husband is not going to seem misogynist at all, how could it be? But telling a woman she'd make a good wife MAY be. I don't know - there would have to be some kind of questioning or investigation - but he may have meant that. He may also have meant nothing of the sort - maybe he just meant that spouses cook for one-another and had no further thought. But because of the history of gender roles in Western cultures, because of the derogatory use of of phrases like 'stay in the kitchen' etc. it is possible that this comment was intended as a sexist comment.
I don't know if it was or not. None of us can know without interrogating the poor man - and it's such a minor issue that who cares, really. Certainly not worth all THIS fuss, from the media or us. I'm just trying to explain my point on this one. I don't want to be misunderstood. And I'm not angry or trying to be argumentative, I swear!
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Post by jklinders on Apr 3, 2013 1:22:22 GMT 1
Back to the article that is the source of contention.
The man said he was taken out of context and the young women said it was taken out of context. They were there, no one else was. Yet folks are still arguing about it. My anger was at no one dropping it even though there was no victim or crime.
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