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Post by Warhammer Gorvar on Mar 28, 2013 16:01:24 GMT 1
Post Thessia or even post-Horizon are good bets.
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Post by Mister Buch on Mar 28, 2013 16:14:56 GMT 1
I couldn't kid myself that it's post ending - it's probably going to be the green or blue ending, and even then people like Wrex are going to want to be with their people rather than on the Citadel. But I've been thinking about this and I'm sure we ARE going to have to kid ourselves about something.
If you don't want to include Tali in the party then it's easy enough - place it at some point *after* the Cerberus coup on the Citadel. At this point there is a reduced sense of urgency and Shepard's efforts are at a loose end, before she realises about the geth / quarian war and goes to investigate. There would be nothing wrong with Anderson and Hackett giving you a shore leave at that point. Several crewmen have commented that Shepard seems stressed, she's just secured turian and krogan fleets, plus she was just at the Citadel for a mission. This would be a good place for it. But there's no Tali.
But if you want Tali (and who wouldn't?) then you must do the DLC either immediately before or immediately after Thessia -- because the Thessia mission is given to you by the asari councillor via vid-message immediately after you end the Rannoch war. So the first option is: Pretend that the Thessia attack, and the councilor's urgent message to 'meet her in her office right now' didn't happen yet and do the DLC immediately before Thessia, i.e. on a high point where you have saved Rannoch and the final push is about to begin. (But you have to ignore the urgent message and pretend Thessia is actually hit during your leave instead of before.)
Or the second one: do Thessia, watch Kai Leng beat you and get away with the beacon, pledge that you'll get him back before it's too late, yell at Joker... and THEN have a rockin' party. To be fair this one would kind of make sense since you are at a loose end before the Sanctuary idea is suggested and Shepard is obviously stressed (Joker and Anderson both comment on it here). But with only three missions left I think having a rest at this point of the plot would ruin the tension and desperation that I like so much about this section of the game.
I guess as Gorvar says you could do it after Sanctuary / Horizon... but it seems like a bad idea to take leave when you could be taking the fight directly to the Illusive Man's HQ, and again it would spoil the tension, the way I see it anyway.
So I reckon either don't invite Tali and put it loosely in the middle, or do it right before everything goes to hell on Thessia (by kidding yourself that the councilor didn't ask you to meet her yet).
---- I will make myself NOT play the arcade games and casino, too! I already had a game of chess, a nice dinner, a break with Garrus, etc. I know those are all short breaks, but I will not play arcade games while the Earth is decimated. Or buy fish. Or stand still and listen to excerpts from Blasto 4. Those are where I draw the line! xD
I'll definitely be coming back to the casino after the game is finished, just for fun. But that's the one element I can't imagine would ever fit into this story.
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Post by Clint Johnston on Mar 28, 2013 20:16:39 GMT 1
Or you could always recruit both the Quarians & the Geth.
Buch, not even the cameo in Blasto 5?
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Post by Mister Buch on Mar 28, 2013 20:22:57 GMT 1
You've lost me there - twice!
What cameo is that? And I do save both the quarians and geth if I can, yeah. But no matter who you save, Tali is unavailable for the DLC until the Rannoch war is over.
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Post by Clint Johnston on Mar 28, 2013 20:25:29 GMT 1
You And Javik are recruited to jump into Blasto 5. Not the funniest bit of his from the citadel, but amusing.
And I guess I misread what you were saying about Tali. Next you're going to be going on abotu stuff being lore-friendly... LOL
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Post by Mister Buch on Mar 28, 2013 20:32:01 GMT 1
Well, one of us is drunk. I understand that much.
The Javik thing - hm, that sounds extremely.... uh.... stupid. I'll be going into this DLC with mixed feelings!
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Post by Warhammer Gorvar on Mar 29, 2013 0:13:17 GMT 1
Javik is known to be the biggest troll in Mass Effect. When he gets drunk he even starts to troll himself...and i love him for it.
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Post by lieden on Mar 29, 2013 13:06:30 GMT 1
I did play it (half of it) after all - at the very end after Horizon. When it's done, I will give it a break, then get back into the war and treat it all like some sort of dream, or a memories mash-up from the good times Shepard had with the team. Which is what it is, anyway.
I'm really eager to see what you think of it, Buch.
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Post by Mister Buch on Mar 29, 2013 13:31:44 GMT 1
I am too! One the one hand I might absolutely hate it - you make it sound SO comical and out of place that I'm already angry at it, and things like everyone getting drunk, pairing off, Javik in a movie, the opportunity to sleep with Vega etc just sound like the most awful fanfic ideas to me. But then on the other hand, I remember a lot of things that sounded like the worst thing ever in the past and I went on about how rubbish they were right up until I played them - Jack, James and the Shadow Broker DLC for example -- and I ended up loving them.
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Post by lieden on Mar 29, 2013 14:05:57 GMT 1
One thing is for certain - it IS well-made. And mostly enjoyable in itself, too.
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Post by Mister Buch on Mar 29, 2013 14:42:28 GMT 1
Yeah but that 'in itself' is bothering me! Well I really look forward to writing a giant review and taking myself far too seriously, before deleting it and writing two paragraphs. xD
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Post by Mister Buch on Mar 30, 2013 16:11:09 GMT 1
I haven't gotten to the Citadel DL yet, but I am having fun playing 'Leviathan' for the first time - or 'Shepard and EDI - Reaper Detectives' as I prefer to call it.
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Post by Warhammer Gorvar on Mar 30, 2013 18:11:59 GMT 1
I like the Husk Head you get out of it as a souvenir. I dubbed him Harry the Husk Head.
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Post by Mister Buch on Mar 30, 2013 18:27:02 GMT 1
I decided to decline James' ingenious idea to keep a living, severed, brutally mutilated human head, directly controlled by the Reapers...... next to my bed. Seriously I thought that was a bit mystifying, but it's a testament to the quality of the game that you have to option to say no.
Just finished 'Leviathan' for the first time, and oh my God that was the greatest side-quest I've ever seen in my life. I think the main game is lacking without it - another reason to be annoyed by Bioware's policy on DLC of late - just remove the best parts of the plot and sell them extra. Maybe even if the answers about the Reapers included here had been a part of the main game, the ending would have been less disappointing. Certainly it would have made more sense. I think the biggest mistake (and maybe the main cause of the outrage) over the ending was just that they didn't clearly set it up. Well here's the set-up.
But this DLC was worth the money and the wait. I hope 'Citadel' is as good. Also it was very amusing to finally find out why the Reapers look like prawns. ;D
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Post by Warhammer Gorvar on Mar 30, 2013 19:20:58 GMT 1
Thanks Buch you bastard, now im hungry.
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