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Post by Tillian Panthesis on Apr 2, 2013 15:32:55 GMT 1
Actually I'm not talking about the ending this time, I'm talking about some doubt with the future games. There's been a lot of talent leaving in the late, especially I've keep running into former BioWare workers, who are switching over to newer ships. And these people are pretty insightful from what I seen with their work, I admire that.
By the way, I'm just talking where the wind is blowing, what I've said from above post is not my opinion. Those are my former-classmates. If you want to debate it, debate them, not me.
The whole fan pandering shows they lack some faith in themselves. Which is a pity, loosing faith and pandering too much doesn't go well from my experience.
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Post by lieden on Apr 2, 2013 15:47:45 GMT 1
I don't think it's the evil twin the fandom loved, rather the extra interaction with the squad and the opportunity to go into antics with them. They loved it so much they didn't care about how stupid the plot is. I don't think I ever felt so much at odds with the majority of the fanbase, either. Completely alienating. I might console myself with the rest of Marauder Shields.
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Post by Tillian Panthesis on Apr 2, 2013 15:53:33 GMT 1
Well, I'm not going to argue with that one. I agree that the Marauder Shields is comforting for other people. I was thinking of reading it, but then I'll wait out for a little because I don't want to get too influenced by it, I want to have my own writing get influenced naturally, wherever I walk.
Anyway I'm happy I got the prologue out of the door and now I'm just working on the fun, if hard bits for the first act.
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Post by Warhammer Gorvar on Apr 6, 2013 11:08:59 GMT 1
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Post by Mr. Glow on Apr 6, 2013 13:18:50 GMT 1
Remember when people were expecting a trial at the start of the game discussing all of the player's actions throughout the trilogy instead of: "Shepard halp what we do?" "WE FIGHT OR WE DIE!" *Everyone in the room except Shepard gets Anderson are instantly vaporised*
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Post by Mister Buch on Apr 6, 2013 13:54:40 GMT 1
At the risk of provoking an argument, I dare say that a Reaper invasion is somewhat more interesting and relevant than a shoehorned backstory rehash...
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Post by lieden on Apr 6, 2013 14:08:38 GMT 1
I'm torn. I found the beginning kinda jarring. Good structure, I think, but a liiitle more exposition couldn't hurt, either. At any rate, I ignored it because everything from there to Tuchanka was pure awesome.
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Post by Warhammer Gorvar on Apr 6, 2013 14:09:16 GMT 1
I gotta admit, the shot of Vancouver burning is pretty cool and threw me in the game.
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Post by jklinders on Apr 6, 2013 14:47:44 GMT 1
Stuff gets cut from games, movies and books as a matter of editing and story flow all the time. The difference here seems to be that a lot of folks think cutting stuff from games is always a shot at the players and taking stuff away. Sometimes there is good reason for it. I saw little in there that was of any real value to the story.
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Post by Warhammer Gorvar on Apr 6, 2013 15:24:46 GMT 1
I did like several bits they could've kept it in.
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Post by jklinders on Apr 6, 2013 16:48:14 GMT 1
I generally do as well, but stuff gets cut. Rather than data mine for all the crap that could have been, both good and bad after all bad shit gets cut too; no one seems to remember that, try to appreciate that they were trying to make the best game possible with what they had. I see shit like this and I really start to think about agreeing that gamers can be a pack of entitled whiners.
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Post by Clint Johnston on Apr 6, 2013 17:34:18 GMT 1
I'm not too worried by them cutting stuff, aside from the issues inherent with day one DLC. Are these audio files, or just ideas that never got completed?
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Post by jklinders on Apr 6, 2013 17:42:46 GMT 1
Data mined, so likely placeholders and maybe some audio. Stuff gets left in when they are trying to put stuff together. Likely what happened is that what they left out was far harder to remove from code than just leaving the scripts off and not allowing them to activate.
I'll not argue the DLC point as it has been dickered to death, raised up and dickered to death again.
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Post by Warhammer Gorvar on Apr 6, 2013 17:44:24 GMT 1
I prefer seeing it as deleted scenes.
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Post by Mister Buch on Apr 6, 2013 17:48:09 GMT 1
A *bit* of a trial would have been nice, I have to admit. Or if not that then a little dialogue explaining why the hero is under house arrest. It is a bit sudden. If like me you don't own 'Arrival' then you have to imagine how and why Shepard went from 'cruising around in a stolen Cerberus starship trying to warn people about the Reapers' to 'under house arrest and doing nothing at all'.
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