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Post by Mister Buch on Mar 29, 2012 2:01:28 GMT 1
It seems to me like you are the EX-pert, Gorvar!
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Post by Warhammer Gorvar on Mar 29, 2012 2:13:19 GMT 1
Thank you thank you my adoring fans, now play me off keyboard cat!
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Post by Tillian Panthesis on Nov 12, 2012 14:27:58 GMT 1
It's been a while since I've done this, but it's a matter of time before something like will happen to me and my comic.
People yelling at you for writing a story that is off-canon... despite the fact you already put a warning sign on the wall that it's an AU/Crossover/whatever-it-is-not-canon. Even if you put a big Neon sign, they'll still ignore it and call you out... /sigh
While my comic is lucky enough to be left alone at this time, I had run into a similar problem with one of my turian designs a few years ago, by some stupid BioDrone that needs to be dragged off the internet for a while.
With the dramatic changes in the ME3 ending that I did to accommodate the comic, the decision to keep turian fringes and non-boobage and a few radical changes I've yet to announced at this time... yeah, I'll be dealing indoctrinated BioDrones that is probably straight from the BSN site knowing my luck.
/rant end
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Post by herrwozzeck on Nov 12, 2012 19:12:25 GMT 1
It's been a while since I've done this, but it's a matter of time before something like will happen to me and my comic. People yelling at you for writing a story that is off-canon... despite the fact you already put a warning sign on the wall that it's an AU/Crossover/whatever-it-is-not-canon. Even if you put a big Neon sign, they'll still ignore it and call you out... /sigh While my comic is lucky enough to be left alone at this time, I had run into a similar problem with one of my turian designs a few years ago, by some stupid BioDrone that needs to be dragged off the internet for a while. With the dramatic changes in the ME3 ending that I did to accommodate the comic, the decision to keep turian fringes and non-boobage and a few radical changes I've yet to announced at this time... yeah, I'll be dealing indoctrinated BioDrones that is probably straight from the BSN site knowing my luck. /rant end I know how you feel about that, Tillian: I've already had that happen to me with a particularly stupid reader of mine from MV3. I seriously keep on telling him that I'm not following canon and that I'm doing things my own way and all that, and yet he keeps insisting my story is full of "plot holes" (of which he's only ever able to bring up the same three things, BTW). So yeah, I know how dealing with the BioDrones can be sometimes, particularly the really stupid ones. While I'm at it, actually, I have another mild pet hate I've got: fans of your fanfics who go up to you and ask you to include their character in the story. You know, even providing you with a bio with which to do that or something like that. You know, because there's no way to organically include another person's character into the story if you've already planned it out and everything. Most of the time they just end up getting shoehorned in, and then promptly forgotten because the author can't find anything interesting to do with a character that was forced into a story they were never meant to be part of. And you know when it gets really annoying? It gets really annoying when they start following you everywhere and won't shut the hell up about their character, basically until you have no choice but to include their character in the vain hope that maybe they'll shut up about it for two seconds. Those kinds of people are also really annoying, but thankfully I haven't heard quite as many stories of those types of people. You know how it is.
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Post by Mr. Glow on Nov 12, 2012 22:54:22 GMT 1
Either tell them to fuck off or include their badass OC in a really irritating way (like making them a redshirt or a parody of themselves and their author.)
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Post by CAPT Issac R. Madden on Nov 13, 2012 1:48:43 GMT 1
I deal with the same thing with Halo of Flies being labeled a "self insert" despite my bolded message in my story summary saying "NOT AN SI: just becuase a story is written in 1st person doesn't mean it is an SI fic".
Then again, I did have someone PM me and say that they'd compare Halo of Flies with Mass Vexations. Not sure how to take that one.
ETA: I've actually been tempted to do a dedicated SI MST fic, just to see how many haters I'd get for going after the obligatory Marty Stu Talimancer fics...
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Post by Tillian Panthesis on Nov 13, 2012 2:43:01 GMT 1
Either tell them to fuck off or include their badass OC in a really irritating way (like making them a redshirt or a parody of themselves and their author.) Or have a bridge drop on their OC and have the main characters of the story shrug their shoulders and completely forgot about them, as their reaction to their deaths. CAPT Issac R. Madden I hear you about these idiots who cannot tell a difference between stylistic choice and an SI. Haven't read proper 1st person stories much?
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Post by CAPT Issac R. Madden on Nov 13, 2012 2:49:05 GMT 1
The sad thing is, I prefer writing in 1st person perspective. It's what I'm most comfortable with and I like using indirect plot cues to set up the larger story. 3rd person omnicient narrative is easier, but seems a lazier style to me. I mean, in 3rd person omnicient, you can just write a scene and be done with it. From 1st person, you have to weave it in to the main character's perception and so on.
And considering that Mass Effect's premise is that "you" are Shepard, it seems to me that a 1st person style suits the series better.
ETA: if some BioDrone wants their "badass OC" in my story, I'll be happy to write them in: as a strawman redshirt Ian can get punchy/stabby/face-shooty with.
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Post by Tillian Panthesis on Nov 13, 2012 2:59:50 GMT 1
I guess, but I still occasionally have to weave the perception of the characters from time to time in 3rd person. I like both styles, but I use 3rd person more in my works mainly I have a few characters I want to write about for the story.
If Paragons of the Renaissance was written in fiction form, rather than a comic, I would use 1st person due to the biography/bedtime storytelling style, with the protagonist re-telling her life story to someone. Hence stylistic choice for me.
ETA: If those BioDrones bugged me something like that with my comic, their character will get the same treatment as the Cabbage Man.
At best. At worse... well, Zahra is pretty good have giving people unfortunate deaths indirectly due to having the Fool's Spirit watching over her...
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Post by herrwozzeck on Nov 13, 2012 4:40:35 GMT 1
Either tell them to fuck off or include their badass OC in a really irritating way (like making them a redshirt or a parody of themselves and their author.) Or have a bridge drop on their OC and have the main characters of the story shrug their shoulders and completely forgot about them, as their reaction to their deaths. Oh, trust me, I've already planned quite the bridge drop. Trust me.
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Post by Tillian Panthesis on Nov 13, 2012 14:17:55 GMT 1
Anyway, if the fans really like the works and have ideas, they should do it themselves honestly.
In fact doing our own stuff is more satisfying than letting someone else taking the rein, mainly we might not be happy with the results and we're always in control if we do our own shit.
You can tell I'm a control freak when it comes to my works. I take criticisms, but I do not collaborate due to my nature.
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Post by Tillian Panthesis on Jan 31, 2013 9:55:13 GMT 1
Here's another one that I've come across occasionally.
Good but dead fics. I don't know which ones worse, to be left hanging on a nice fic that has infinitive hiatus or shitty fics that are complete?
Then again I shouldn't complain about it too much, since as they all say "All good things must come to an end", plus I did committed that crime myself.
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Post by lieden on Jan 31, 2013 10:13:16 GMT 1
*looks the other way*
I get your frustration (I've come across some REALLY promising fics that were then abandoned, and thought it was a shame), though I think I understand why that happens; not having a clear view of how the story concludes, or realising that what you had in mind is really sketchy or questionable, can make you drop a story and make it seem very nonsensical to go back to it.
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Post by Tillian Panthesis on Jan 31, 2013 10:20:57 GMT 1
That's true, since most fan fics are written by amateur writers, who probably didn't know the basics of mapping out a plot until it's too late. Still, they were promising.
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Post by mrstoob on Feb 12, 2013 0:03:18 GMT 1
RE: the 'I DO NOT OWN...' tales. I pm'd Priestly about this to ensure my twitter thingy like what they did didn't infringe on anything. He said as long as you don't say you're from BioWare, then it's not a problem.
And yes, Tilly, guilty. I have little idea where my FFs are going until I start writing them and can find myself in a corner sometimes for the reason of not mapping whatsoever. I just let the characters guide the story as I write how I think they would react/respond to whatever's going on. Though in my own defence, I think I mostly get away with it.
Edit: didn't state a pet hate: poor grammar/structure/spelling/etc. My English is very good, being English like, and I can be a bit of a Nazi about these things, especially ('specially', grrrr) your/you're, then/than, where/were/we're, there/they're/their, all the favourites.
We were warily at the weir, wearing our whirring wares.
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