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Post by Battlechantress on Nov 23, 2010 16:58:00 GMT 1
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Post by Knightfall on Nov 23, 2010 20:36:51 GMT 1
Ah, I heard about that. I was never a big fan of Buffy, though I loved Angel for some reason. I'm pretty sure in reality Buffy's just being used as a means to cash-in on this vampire/werewolf love, which I don't approve of. Buy the DVDs instead! xD
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Post by Mr. Glow on Nov 24, 2010 2:25:52 GMT 1
I've been meaning to watch Buffy sometime. I started watching Firefly last year, and saw Dr Horrible a few months ago, and I've been a big fan of Joss Whedon ever since.
But yeah, this doesn't seem right.
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Post by Mister Buch on Nov 28, 2010 0:47:03 GMT 1
See I never liked Angel but for a while I reaaally got into Buffy. I just thought it was so much better than it ought to be. It was the musical episode that got me into it - I stumbled upon it by chance and was so impressed I became a fan that day.
This news is very disappointing. Buffy isn't even cold in its grave (bad pun I know) and already they're completely remaking it? Bad idea. There's just no need in remaking things like this... honestly, they need to lay off the remakes I think.
I imagine Whedon wouldn't have agreed to be involved in this. Surely he's worked on Buffy long enough. I can't imagine he'd want to start over after all that work.
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Post by Nemonus on Nov 29, 2010 8:29:09 GMT 1
I liked Whedon's reply to the criticism of this. Something like "The world needs more original ideas...like my Avengers idea that I came up with entirely myself."
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Post by ommadawn on Dec 1, 2010 1:51:12 GMT 1
Was he being tongue-in- cheek, or serious? You never know with Whedon. >_>
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Post by Battlechantress on Dec 1, 2010 6:24:34 GMT 1
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Post by Mister Buch on Dec 1, 2010 15:09:47 GMT 1
I definitely agree with her general point - a movie LIKE Buffy would be great, but an actual remake can only be passable at best. Omma, definitely tongue-in-cheek
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Post by Nemonus on Dec 2, 2010 21:25:40 GMT 1
Agreed with Buch on both points.
That article's bit about "tons of heroes but not enough heroism" is really interesting. I'm left wondering what the difference is though. I sense the lack of it but can't define it.
I also like the bit about needing something new to break the mold of recent female characters.
No matter the gender, I want a hero who enjoys being a hero, blast it! I swear that could be as complicated as one who always angsts about why they were Chosen.
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Post by Mister Buch on Dec 6, 2010 16:17:37 GMT 1
Buffy did angst quite a bit.
That's an interesting point. So few heroes these days are happy. I blame Spiderman and Batman.
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Post by Clint Johnston on Dec 6, 2010 19:56:50 GMT 1
Problem with that is, a happy hero has fewer conflicts. Fewer conflicts mean less writing substance. For example: If John were a well mannered polite soul, Jane wouldn't be nearly as sympathetic a character.
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Post by jklinders on Dec 7, 2010 1:56:30 GMT 1
Problem with that is, a happy hero has fewer conflicts. Fewer conflicts mean less writing substance. For example: If John were a well mannered polite soul, Jane wouldn't be nearly as sympathetic a character. You can be well adjusted and have some happiness in your life and conflict as well well. Too much of cinema and TV and superhero movies and whatever are moving too far to the French melodrama for my taste. You can only heap so much crap on the characters before it gets ridiculous. Wheden has a tendency to lay it on pretty thick at times and it gets tiring to watch.
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Post by Mister Buch on Dec 7, 2010 2:36:04 GMT 1
True, by the end of Buffy the angst heaped on her shoulders was ridiculous.
Superman famously has rubbish villains (except for the giant spider which kicked ass) and no character flaws, but his appeal is mostly just how awesome he is. So he's maybe a 'perfect hero' done right. (However I would say he's at his best when he's emotionally distressed, as in the movie Superman 2.)
It's interesting that now the scales have kind of turned for adventure writers. Once, a simple tale with a good hero, a love interest and an evil villain was so much the norm that it became frowned upon. Now - angsty, dark adventure stories all about internal conflicts and difficult decisions are bcoming passe - 'complexity' is now 'angst'. And we're at the stage where a good-versus-evil story is very hard to do, while your worried, responsible hero is easy. Just because we new writers have so many examples to follow.
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