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Post by Hodster on May 24, 2009 20:53:03 GMT 1
Sweet a extra dark ending for my nazi Shepard!
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thedekker
Serviceman 3rd Class
Ash, I'd tap that
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Post by thedekker on Nov 23, 2009 7:17:53 GMT 1
sorry to disagree with mr buch.. but i have to disagree with the renegade being "teenager/war criminal. "
I played as full renegade throughout the whole game (25 yrs old by the way), and though i did feel kind of bad about the odd choice (most of feros), i do feel a lot of the choices were justified.
to Shep, how could he know what would happen if he let the rachni live? as he said to the council, "i eliminated the threat"
the asari on feros, though she was "planning" on helpin people out, as far as shep knew could have still been under control by saren/sovereign as benezia was
even some of the moments buch pointed out by "john pushed him up against the wall with a pistol to his face" were justified by people not co-operating. its an intimidate skill to make them listen, and is effective.
another renegade choice "you can stop this saren, if you have the guts" turned out to work quite well for everyone
the council on the other hand...with their specter out finding information for them and doing their dirty work, still wouldnt believe or listen to ANYTHING, and grounding the normandy was just plain retarded. that made it all the more easier to let them die. I gotta admit, i chuckled at the end where udina and anderson saw the opportunity to let humans step up and take the council, and shep said "yeah i know, thats why i did it"
i had the ruthless background, and just as it describes, "it gets the job done, quickly".
call me an immature teenager, but as i say, its a game, they give you the option, and you gotta admit...its badass.
-dekker
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Post by Mister Buch on Nov 24, 2009 0:53:16 GMT 1
I have to admit, Dekker, you make some very good points there. I think I can be over-critical of Mass Effect in general, and this has always been my number one gripe.
I have always thought that the renegade option at the end of Noveria is ha a lot of sense behind it - certainly the safe option (and yet, still genocidal execution of an innocent!) Still ont hat particular decision, I see no reason why Shepard should not refer that decision to the council. That should have been an option. She should be judged by people who know the first thing about rachni, and fairly.
A lot of Shepard's renegade decisions are more justifiable than I give them credit for. However, for the record, as a bit of an idealist at heart, I'd just like to say that I disagree with every single one of them!
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Hmm - that reaction ended up much more argumentative than I expected!
Also - it's nice to have you posting too Dekker! I was hoping we'd see you around the forums.
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thedekker
Serviceman 3rd Class
Ash, I'd tap that
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Post by thedekker on Nov 24, 2009 3:43:56 GMT 1
^fair enough bro, we are all entitled to our opinion! I'm starting a new playthrough, will go full paragon, so at least i can see both sides of it just curious with the renegade ending however.... the final scene shows shep standing in front of a giant red planet, with some blue up in one corner of it.....i'm assuming the blue is the paragon points you made, and the red is the renegade...since after all the bad choices and cut scenes, you never really know how you did... reason im thinking this is that after 2 playthroughs of that particular character, i noticed different amounts of blue on the planet. am i right? Thanks for the welcoming Buch, hopefully you guys can tolerate my somewhat cynical nature! i'm not all bad though
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Post by Mister Buch on Nov 24, 2009 13:18:20 GMT 1
Sorry if I came across as confrontational - I am bizarrely opinonated on Mass Effect xD
I never noticed that about the planet - is that right, everyone?
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N7v1K0
Lieutenant
This one has no time for your solid waste excretions.
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Post by N7v1K0 on Nov 24, 2009 20:59:50 GMT 1
Hmm... I never noticed the planet either...
I'm doing a full renegade playthrough now- I've forgotten how cool renegade is!
I love some of the lines: "Did someone piss in your security chief's coffee today?" "Depends on the species... turian!" "All you've gotta know is that I have more credentials than you." "Here's a tip for ya- 2 eyes HUMAN, 4 eyes BATARIAN!" "Because it's a big, stupid jellyfish!"
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Post by Tillian Panthesis on Nov 25, 2009 6:18:55 GMT 1
Yeah the renegade has the coolest lines ever. Also some more golden gems:
"I've just killed 50 bodygaurds! What do you think I'm going to you?" "You don't look so smug with a hole in your head!" "Sometimes diplomacy comes from the barrel end of the gun." "Uhh.... 3! No! 4!" "Here's another saying: Go to hell!" "You're a bean counter Jeong and I'm a Spectre. So tell me... what are goods are the odds are?"
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Post by Mr. Glow on Nov 25, 2009 8:29:38 GMT 1
"Tell me where he is and I'll go find him" -Renegade Shepard to Jaleed.
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