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Post by Zarsthor on Jul 31, 2009 16:22:49 GMT 1
Ok I just wrote this to the creators of Borderlands. A little harsh maybe but I'm really annoyed at the amount of shit coming out of the game industry.
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My friends and myself were really looking forward to playing your game Borderlands as all the reviews said it would be split-screen co-op. Recently that information has changed and now you are only offering Split-screen local co-op. This information has delivered a hard hitting blow to us all as now we won't be able to play with one another. Giving a game split-screen local co-op but not multiplayer is one of the laziest things game companies are partaking in these current few years. The x-box 360 and PS3 all have internet connectivity. The x-box allows for multiple accounts because most people with x-boxes actually have friends and family they play with. Most families contain at least 2 children, 3 if you include their father. These 2 children have say 5 friends 2/3 with a sibling. Thats 2/3's of your market you just stopped from being able to play with those two children. The adult population of gamers is a similar affair. We have roommates and partners, friends and children. We need multiplayer split-screen online. Personally we won't be buying your game any longer due to the fact you have just pushed us all out of the target audience. I really hope that games companies like yourself will stop ruining the games industry because ruining you are. There are too many single player games out there already. There is, what, 3 multiplayer games that came out in the last 12 months? 3 multiplayer games that did the best business, Left 4 dead, Gears of war 2 and Halo 3 (released a littler longer than 12 months ago but its had a lot of content released in the last 12 months for its multiplayer section). Does that really not ring a bell with you? And for the record, allowing a 'guest' to play split-screen online is even lazier an action than not allowing it at all. Nobody wants to play as a guest and we don't spend money every year on subscriptions and £45+ for a game without expecting something for it.
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Post by Cali on Jul 31, 2009 16:34:41 GMT 1
I would be the one to disagree. In fact, I was afraid that it was going to be online co-op only, so you can imagine just how excited I am.
To me, playing co-op with someone online is like going to the subway to play chess with some frothing vagrant. My buddies and I are always pissed off at the lack of split screen co-op games nowadays, which you have to play online co-op, such as Mercenaries 2 and Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood.
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Post by Zarsthor on Jul 31, 2009 18:49:26 GMT 1
Wait what? Cali you just stated you were for and agaisnt the same thing.
____ Anyway I just think it is ridiculous that every game is single player or multiplayer without split-screen. Its really pissing me off tot he point I'm tempted to just stop buying games for these platforms. I'm paying every year for a subscription that I can barely use because they keep changing there minds about games. The games companies and microsoft have a lot to answer for. They are ruining the games industry with these inadequate games.
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Post by Cali on Jul 31, 2009 18:57:11 GMT 1
Aw shhhhhiii-
Okay, now I see what you're saying. I thought you were saying that you're angry because they don't allow online co-op. My mistake.
Anyway, this news angers me. A lot. I thought you were saying the opposite.
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Post by Zarsthor on Jul 31, 2009 19:18:04 GMT 1
Huh? I am angry because there is no split-screen online co-op. We were going to play the game with two others online but we can't now and its bullshit!
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Post by Cali on Jul 31, 2009 19:20:37 GMT 1
Huh? I am angry because there is no split-screen online co-op. We were going to play the game with two others online but we can't now and its bullshit!
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Post by Knightfall on Jul 31, 2009 19:30:20 GMT 1
LOL! That's the best smiley face ever. If that's true, that's somewhat annoying that Borderlands won't have online co-op, since it's been compared to World of Warcraft more than...World of Warcraft... Maybe it's just something they've yet to announce or implement. Resident Evil 5 players had to wait a while to get their multiplayer add-on. Maybe Gearbox is doing the same. Either way, I'm still gonna keep a close eye on Borderlands, looks pretty cool. Off topic: Is Mercenaries 2 any good? I loved the first one but I heard some evil things about the second. o.O
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Post by Zarsthor on Jul 31, 2009 19:36:34 GMT 1
Nope. They said it would have split-screen Online co-op but then this month they changed there minds. Now all we get is split-screen local co-op and you can join as a second player through 'guest account' on multiplayer but not your xbox live account in split-screen. Thats pure laziness!
Merceneries 2 is a pile of wank on a tree. You can play the demo on xbox if you want to try it out.
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Post by Tillian Panthesis on Oct 19, 2009 6:24:38 GMT 1
Here's my complaint for Borderlands... fallout.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Ausir/Gearbox%27s_Pitchford_talks_Fallout_3_againwww.gamasutra.com/view/feature/4158/the_illusions_we_make_gearboxs_.phpOk, I maybe addicted to Fallout 3 and let me point out I'm not a fan girl but he critism and rants about Fallout 3 and the dialogue just really shits me. Let me point out that it's not a FUCKING RPG with out dialogue trees. That's what makes RPGS differentiate from other game genres. Also that's part of the RPG fun. Even the old Fallout series HAVE dialogue options, goddamn it! It's like taking away all the dialouge options from Mass Effect and turn into a plain old shooter. Mate, if you're trying to take away the option to comunicate with the characters and the world by putting your own mindless, limited interaction which consist of shooting everything that moves and that's bloody it, then you're essentially murdering the RPG genre, idiot.
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Post by N7v1K0 on Nov 18, 2009 16:36:31 GMT 1
Oh no, are y'all Borderlands haters?
BTW: I loathe Fallout 3
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Post by Zarsthor on Nov 18, 2009 16:49:06 GMT 1
I'm a Borderlands disliker purely on the basis that they lied to me. Repeatedly. Then acted like dicks about it. The game company that is.
Fallout 3 does suck.... I've been really giving it ago the last few days but everytime I find somethign enw I have another palm slap sigh of death moment. Vampires now? REALLY? Fuck off.
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Post by Tillian Panthesis on Nov 19, 2009 3:28:45 GMT 1
I don't hate borderlands, the game itself (even though the ending sucks worser than Fallout 3 without the expansion.). I just hate the creator who acts like a dick.
10 dollar bet that he hates Mass Effect too. Why? dialougue trees. He hates em.
My rant about is how genre blind that guy is. As I've said before and I'll say it again, it's not a proper storytelling RPG without dialogue trees. If you want to make an RPG in the likes of Diablo series, then fine, understandable. Just don't do a fucken 5 page rant on how developers like Bethesda and BioWare ought to get rid of the dialogue tree in their game. Taking dialogue trees from those game is like ripping someone's brain out and expected them to fuction well. I hate to say this but Mass Effect's heart lies in the Dialogue trees, without it would another generic shooter with space marines. Ho hum. So yeah, at least be understandable that not all games are ment to be the same to enjoy it. Every game is unique in it's own way and has it's own appeal. And as I've said before and I'm going to say it again, taking dialogue trees away from those games will kill them, especially Mass Effect.
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Post by Mister Buch on Nov 19, 2009 16:15:44 GMT 1
They aren't really vampires Zars! Just idiots who drink blood for fun. Give Fallout time... I dunno why I'm supporting it here - it's nice to have someone else who doesn't think it's awesome.
We definitely need to not get rid of dialogue trees.
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Post by Zarsthor on Nov 20, 2009 2:37:21 GMT 1
Buch I've played it for 26 hours... I have a list of faults longer than my name and thats pretty damn long if you know my full name. Fucking no bullets. Shit nosed mutants taking 20 sniper roudn tot he ehad and barely beign affected, then to high up for me to open up the flamerthrower on there arses so I have to spend 48 minutes (I timed it) pumping myself full of stims and using every bullet in my arsenal on the missle launcher, assualt rifle, machine gun, laser and whatever else I had on me. I carry pretty much everything because you never know and a baseball bat for the other times. A cow tried to kill me the other night! Why? Why is everything hellbent on eating my spleen? Why does it still say I'm a good person even though I rob everybody, shoot them in the nuts at random and get raiders to chase me up to caravans just so they'll kill each other and I can loot them. (I was bored.) Oh god then there is the endless walking! The graphic errors, dodgy path finding, broken map markers, people constantly saying shit to me like "You betetr not be thinking of stealing that there empty nuka-cola bottle"... seriously? Why would I want to steal it? My cursor just brushed over it. Everybody is schitzophrenic, my father is a douche bag, my friends hate me for no reason, I feel bad about killing dogs, everything is a greyish brown colour so I have to click the VATS system constantly to see people, people saying stupid shit like "Its to dangerous to go alone to a place like that, how about you go for me." and to top it off they are all ripping me off.
I can't wait for Mass Effect 2....
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I have decided that Fallout 3 is like living on an estate with chavs. Except you don't get the added bonus of people coming on to you.
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Post by Mister Buch on Nov 20, 2009 3:03:55 GMT 1
Buch I've played it for 26 hours... ;D Touche! Yeah I have to say I can agree with all of these points. In fact this post reminds me strongly of the fault-filled essay I sent Knightfall after my second attempt at the game ended. It was my third attempt that finally made me like the game. It took a lot to make me get into it - but once I was in I was in.
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