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Post by Clint Johnston on Jul 11, 2013 22:12:59 GMT 1
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Post by Warhammer Gorvar on Jul 11, 2013 22:32:35 GMT 1
RELEVANT! Well to be honest...i'm okay with it. If Spidey is supposedly an every day guy, well he can be gay. Again this is an alternative universe version of Spidey, he can be gay.
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Post by Lily Ariel Linders on Jul 11, 2013 22:53:57 GMT 1
Colour me confused, but I'm curious as to why Spidey would be gay? Isn't he married to Mary Jane in the canon? And Mary Jane is definately a woman...
Making Spidey suddenly gay after so many years of canon-Mary Sue (oops, I mean canon-Mary Jane) just seems gratuitous.
If new stories are introduced into the canon continuity, then maybe, but again... why?
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Post by Warhammer Gorvar on Jul 11, 2013 23:06:02 GMT 1
Currently his marriage with MJ has been erased by the devil, Dr Octopus transfered his mind into Spider-man turning him into a Spider Bat-Man and he kills criminals who cant be helped. I dunno if being gay is that much of an issue really. Hey everyone remember that The Dark Knight Returns rip off called Spider-Man Reign where he killed Mary Jane with his radioactive Semen? That was a thing, look it up!
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Post by spookyjacobs on Jul 11, 2013 23:29:17 GMT 1
Andrew Garfield playing a gay Spider Man? I'd watch that. I'd watch it a lot.
But I don't know that Spider Man really should be gay. It would just kind of feel like a giant publicity stunt. If you're making a character gay because you want to tell a story with a gay character, great, but doing it for attention is just sleazy.
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Post by CAPT Issac R. Madden on Jul 11, 2013 23:36:49 GMT 1
It seems to me Marvel is trying to pander to the LGBT crowd and being lazy about it. Instead of changing a 50+ year iconic character, why not create a new character? This is very much like what they did with Miles Morales in the Ultimate continuity; except he's a trifecta being half black, half latino, and gay.
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Post by Mister Buch on Jul 11, 2013 23:37:23 GMT 1
Spider-Man can be gay if they want, in the same way that Nick Fury can be black. I don't know if there's any reason to make him gay, however, but I'm sure that if that's what the writers want to write they could do it. We know he won't be with poor old Gwen Stacy forever, so - yeah, it's not impossible. It wouldn't seem like a betrayal of the character any more than the many many other changes that films make to their source material.
But it all depends what the reasons are. It would be so nice to have a real superhero who was gay (you know, not a rubbish one or a sidekick) but I don't think the solution is to start making existing characters gay. I kind of grew up watching Peter and Mary Jane. For reasons that have nothing to do with sexuality I'd rather as few changes are made to that story as possible. But I could go either way. If you know what I mean.
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Post by jklinders on Jul 11, 2013 23:48:53 GMT 1
Currently his marriage with MJ has been erased by the devil, Dr Octopus transfered his mind into Spider-man turning him into a Spider Bat-Man and he kills criminals who cant be helped. I dunno if being gay is that much of an issue really. Hey everyone remember that The Dark Knight Returns rip off called Spider-Man Reign where he killed Mary Jane with his radioactive Semen? That was a thing, look it up! Brain bleach please? Please?
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Post by Mister Buch on Jul 12, 2013 0:13:41 GMT 1
If he can make a deal with the gorram Devil, he can be gay. There are levels of ruination. xD
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Post by Lily Ariel Linders on Jul 12, 2013 1:27:36 GMT 1
Andrew Garfield playing a gay Spider Man? I'd watch that. I'd watch it a lot. But I don't know that Spider Man really should be gay. It would just kind of feel like a giant publicity stunt. If you're making a character gay because you want to tell a story with a gay character, great, but doing it for attention is just sleazy. Yes! Thank you! That was exactly what I was thinking but couldn't articulate for some reason! It does seem like a publicity stunt, and doing it for attention, by doing it with a character who is already well-established... I like the way you think!
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Post by Cali on Jul 12, 2013 2:15:47 GMT 1
Alternate universes are far from anything new to the world of comic books, so this is unsurprising. In fact, I'm not at all surprised by this, nor do I really have too much of an opinion on the decision. I do think that they kind of are just doing it for the attention though, as pondyjacobs said. Regarding plot purposes/changes, however, I am interested in seeing where this goes. I do wonder if this will lead to Peter Parker/Spiderman being infatuated with Harry Osborne/The Green Goblin which creates a frictional love-hate relationship between the two.
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Post by spookyjacobs on Jul 12, 2013 5:13:07 GMT 1
Andrew Garfield playing a gay Spider Man? I'd watch that. I'd watch it a lot. But I don't know that Spider Man really should be gay. It would just kind of feel like a giant publicity stunt. If you're making a character gay because you want to tell a story with a gay character, great, but doing it for attention is just sleazy. Yes! Thank you! That was exactly what I was thinking but couldn't articulate for some reason! It does seem like a publicity stunt, and doing it for attention, by doing it with a character who is already well-established... I like the way you think! Thanks! And it's too bad that it automatically feels that way. There are probably some people who would like to show established characters like Spider Man in ways we've never seen him before to challenge peoples' perceptions, but the entertainment industry in general is just so starved for attention and prone to lame stunts that I think it's left us jaded. I'm also wary of characters being made gay because they'll probably work to hard to define them that way to the point where it becomes gratuitous or offensive. Aside from the character's romantic preferences, that wouldn't require change for much else. So I can see them making Peter Parker some raging queen that hits on all his male enemies. Maybe there'll be an issue where he uses Spider Man powers to defeat Republicans who oppose gay marriage. Because he's gay, remember? Do we have that gay money now?
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Post by Lily Ariel Linders on Jul 12, 2013 10:23:02 GMT 1
It would make more sense to just make a new character and have them be an ally or friend or something to Spidey, and then it would feel less shoehorned in, I think... rather than changing the fundamental makeup of an already established character.
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Post by Mister Buch on Jul 12, 2013 10:54:32 GMT 1
Reading the article, I don't think anybody but Andrew Garfield is trying to push this, so I disagree that Marvel is trying to pander to anybody.
It seems unlikely to me that Marvel would want this. They'd lose a lot of money.
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Post by Clint Johnston on Jul 12, 2013 14:19:46 GMT 1
Yeah. Garfield just had some crazy notion. No one's claiming it's a new route for the franchise.
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