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Post by Warhammer Gorvar on Jan 30, 2013 23:11:22 GMT 1
I totally understand that Shepard would snap after Virmire.
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Post by Mister Buch on Jan 30, 2013 23:15:57 GMT 1
Which is why Ash Williams gets yelled at in the debrief (if she survives) and Conrad gets a gun in his face and runs off saying 'Heroes don't do things like thaaaat!'. And I feel legitimately ashamed of myself. xD
I love that moment in the game. And again, the very similar moment where you finally snap at Joker after Thessia ('I've taken enough of your shit!) and then he tells you his sister is dead and you don't talk to each other until Earth's atmosphere. Freaking beautiful.
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Post by jklinders on Jan 30, 2013 23:18:47 GMT 1
I usually take the "kick him in the quad" option with Verner in ME 2. Not because I am being a dick, but because here is this poseur, that I already tried to talk out of the idea of being a soldier reasonably parading himself around in N7 armour like he earned it. even the very best of spec ops soldiers would have a hard time not smashing his family jewels over that one. Not to mention that he is in serious danger of being turned into a flesh cube courtesy of a singularity from the nice bartender he was casually failing at threatening.
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Post by Mister Buch on Jan 30, 2013 23:30:48 GMT 1
He's not a poseur, he's mentally ill! Or very stupid, or has some kind of serious personality problem, or... something. He doesn't understand what he's doing.
Doesn't make him any less annoying of course.....
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Post by CAPT Issac R. Madden on Jan 30, 2013 23:56:05 GMT 1
He's not a poseur, he's mentally ill! Or very stupid, or has some kind of serious personality problem, or... something. He doesn't understand what he's doing. Doesn't make him any less annoying of course..... My reasoning for sticking a gun in his face and kicking him in the quad is simple: shock him out of whatever he's in before he gets himself and others killed.
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Post by jklinders on Jan 31, 2013 0:34:55 GMT 1
He's not a poseur, he's mentally ill! Or very stupid, or has some kind of serious personality problem, or... something. He doesn't understand what he's doing. Doesn't make him any less annoying of course..... Shepard is capable of many things. I doubt analysing the mental capacity and state of someone based on three short conversations is one of them. he said his problem was stress. Stretching to mental illness is...well a bit of a stretch.
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Post by CAPT Issac R. Madden on Jan 31, 2013 0:40:50 GMT 1
He's not a poseur, he's mentally ill! Or very stupid, or has some kind of serious personality problem, or... something. He doesn't understand what he's doing. Doesn't make him any less annoying of course..... Shepard is capable of many things. I doubt analysing the mental capacity and state of someone based on three short conversations is one of them. he said his problem was stress. Stretching to mental illness is...well a bit of a stretch. Agreed. And if Conrad was indeed mentally ill, he was in denial of it. Therefore he needs to be brought out of denial so any treatment he seeks later on would actually be effective. Sometimes a good kick in the seat of the pants is the stimulus needed to shock them into reality.
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Post by Clint Johnston on Jan 31, 2013 6:36:06 GMT 1
His cameo in ME3 was amusing (and practically the only time all your sidequest investment in ME1 was recognized.)
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Post by Mister Buch on Jan 31, 2013 9:47:41 GMT 1
He's not a poseur, he's mentally ill! Or very stupid, or has some kind of serious personality problem, or... something. He doesn't understand what he's doing. Doesn't make him any less annoying of course..... Shepard is capable of many things. I doubt analysing the mental capacity and state of someone based on three short conversations is one of them. he said his problem was stress. Stretching to mental illness is...well a bit of a stretch. Despite his inexplicably (i.e. for comic effect) being a doctor - Conrad Verner is clearly not capable of understading his actions. He doesn't try to insult the uniform - he's a strange delusional weirdo who lives one fantasy life (soldier) on top of another (his fictional marriage). This guy sees a report about a battle on the news and decides that he's going to become a secret agent. This is not a man with a functioning, adult understanding of the world. Jesus guys, don't ever become social workers.
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Post by lieden on Jan 31, 2013 10:20:34 GMT 1
Had to vote for Kalros taking out the Reaper on Tuchanka; it was perhaps my favourite part from all of ME3!
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Post by Tillian Panthesis on Jan 31, 2013 10:23:06 GMT 1
It's strange, but I prefer Sovereign's death back in ME1, maybe because of the emotional epic factor behind it, after dealing with the final level.
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Post by Warhammer Gorvar on Jan 31, 2013 10:44:39 GMT 1
Agreed with Tillian here.
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Post by jklinders on Jan 31, 2013 10:50:47 GMT 1
Shepard is capable of many things. I doubt analysing the mental capacity and state of someone based on three short conversations is one of them. he said his problem was stress. Stretching to mental illness is...well a bit of a stretch. Despite his inexplicably (i.e. for comic effect) being a doctor - Conrad Verner is clearly not capable of understading his actions. He doesn't try to insult the uniform - he's a strange delusional weirdo who lives one fantasy life (soldier) on top of another (his fictional marriage). This guy sees a report about a battle on the news and decides that he's going to become a secret agent. This is not a man with a functioning, adult understanding of the world. Jesus guys, don't ever become social workers. None of which was completely evident before ME 3. He almost better by then. You know recruiting for cerberus aside I mean. You only find out his wife is fictional in ME 3. This is where the rest of it kinda falls into place. And he is insulting the uniform. "I don't have time for training."
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Post by CAPT Issac R. Madden on Jan 31, 2013 14:13:55 GMT 1
Despite his inexplicably (i.e. for comic effect) being a doctor - Conrad Verner is clearly not capable of understading his actions. He doesn't try to insult the uniform - he's a strange delusional weirdo who lives one fantasy life (soldier) on top of another (his fictional marriage). This guy sees a report about a battle on the news and decides that he's going to become a secret agent. This is not a man with a functioning, adult understanding of the world. Jesus guys, don't ever become social workers. None of which was completely evident before ME 3. He almost better by then. You know recruiting for cerberus aside I mean. You only find out his wife is fictional in ME 3. This is where the rest of it kinda falls into place. And he is insulting the uniform. "I don't have time for training." I'm with Linders on this one. Further, he insulted the uniform by wearing a set of N7 armor (albeit a replica knockoff version) when he has precisely zero training and was trying to intimidate people with it. And that bit about him being a delusional weirdo who is incapable of understanding his actions? Here's how I view my actions against Conrad. In ME 1 I was nice but he clearly didn't realize what it takes to be a regular grunt solder yet alone a Spectre. So I stuck a gun in his face to wake him up and make him realize it isn't a game before he went and got himself killed (which didn't work, unfortunately). In ME 2 I kicked him in the quad before Aethyta beat him to death with his own spine and then did the side quest to convince him he'd done good and that he should go home before he gets killed. Both times the actions I took were intended to keep him out of trouble. Now what if Conrad hadn't tried picking a fight with Aethyta, but with Eclipse instead?
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Post by A Normal Pathfinder on Jan 31, 2013 16:46:35 GMT 1
It's strange, but I prefer Sovereign's death back in ME1, maybe because of the emotional epic factor behind it, after dealing with the final level. yeah the normandy shooting it was beast.... and after sovereign gets shot you can hear it scream before it blows up...
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