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Post by Battlechantress on Jul 27, 2011 4:01:10 GMT 1
I thought about putting this in another thread but I couldn't find a suitable candidate. I tried watching "Skinwalkers" tonight while I wait for my new satellite receiver to arrive, and have decided that the following will ruin a movie for me every time:
Screaming or yelling "No! No!" more than ten times. And I'm being generous. We get the point after the third; six if you've got Tourette's or something. I had to hear it for what seemed like two minutes at one point near the middle of the movie, which caused me to pause the film and leave the room.
Scriptwriters everywhere: please, try harder- a LOT harder- to write dialogue for a scene that does not have the following lines repeat themselves:
"Please, open the door!"
"No! Don't you dare open it!"
"Open the door!" etc.
You are not building tension when you use this device. You are merely pissing off the audience of one over here.
Women in poor choices of footwear. You *can* run a lot farther and even use the heel as a weapon if you just took the stupid stilettos OFF.
I'm sure there are more. What have you got?
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Post by CAPT Issac R. Madden on Jul 27, 2011 4:06:44 GMT 1
Matrix -style effects. Yes, it was awesome when the movies came out. Yes, it was ground breaking as it hadn't been done before. No it does NOT need to be used in every fucking movie since 1999. Espeicially the hand-to-hand sequences. Whatever happened to fight scenes that at least looked plausible? Nowadays, if you're not doing a wall run, kicking off and doing a 900 degree spin before landing an airborne roundhouse kick that sends your enemy flying 100 feet, you're not a "badass".
There are exceptions to this trend, but they're not that common.
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Post by Cali on Jul 27, 2011 4:17:21 GMT 1
Movie score composers always trying to be like Hans Zimmer.
No, excessive use of brass and "BWOON" sounds do not make a good musical score.
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Post by Clint Johnston on Jul 27, 2011 6:15:33 GMT 1
This thread could go on a looong time.
Historical inaccuracies would be my big problem. I don't mind a kitschy moving things around for a non-serious movie, but take "The King's Speech"... They delayed George II's first meeting with Logue, then added significantly more antagonism between his family, and then they totally stole Churchill from reality and used him as a prop because stupid audiences these days wouldn't know the actual ministers George II relied on. In truth he was against abdication and was nowhere near the level of office to be talking to the King at the times pictured.
*Realizes he needs sleep. More some other time*
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Post by CAPT Issac R. Madden on Jul 27, 2011 6:19:14 GMT 1
This thread could go on a looong time. Historical inaccuracies would be my big problem. I don't mind a kitschy moving things around for a non-serious movie, but take "The King's Speech"... They delayed George II's first meeting with Logue, then added significantly more antagonism between his family, and then they totally stole Churchill from reality and used him as a prop because stupid audiences these days wouldn't know the actual ministers George II relied on. In truth he was against abdication and was nowhere near the level of office to be talking to the King at the times pictured. *Realizes he needs sleep. More some other time* A favorite of mine is when the ancient Achean society is portrayed as being the good guys when they were notorious for starting wars just because they wanted slaves, money, etc.
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Post by Warhammer Gorvar on Jul 27, 2011 12:43:36 GMT 1
Kinda had the same thing with 300. Athens were 'cowards and boy lovers' while Spartans warrior were...you know...gay.
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Post by Mr. Glow on Jul 27, 2011 12:52:18 GMT 1
Weren't there like 6,000 other guys that movie basically glosses over, too?
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Post by Warhammer Gorvar on Jul 27, 2011 12:57:13 GMT 1
They were at the side while the Spartans took the spotlight and had one major fight scene, but yeh. They were also portrayed as weaklings and unprofessional soldiers more then anything else. Because if you weren't an soldier in this movie, you sucked!
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Post by jklinders on Jul 27, 2011 13:50:37 GMT 1
In his defense Frank Miller himself said that no one should be looking to him for historical reference. But yeah a few points were buggered with. Partially justified by the fact that it was presented as a moral boosting tale by the character Dilios.
My beef is with Shaky cam battle scenes. First example I can think of is Braveheart (another rape of history) where you can't see what the hell is going on because the camera crew is acting like they are having some kind of epileptic fit. Pull the fucking camera back and hold it steady so that the audience can actually SEE the action or just give us an an aftermath of the battle shot. All shaky cam tells me is that you don't know shit about how to film an action sequence and you are trying to hide one flaw behind a massive one and call it "art."
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Post by Warhammer Gorvar on Jul 27, 2011 14:09:22 GMT 1
I still call Gladiator's opening fight scene the best one I've seen so far enxt to the big battles in LOTR. A few shake cam moments here and there, but comapred to Braveheart it's still a lot more watch-able. Besides i felt bad when the dog died....
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Post by docfronkensteen on Jul 27, 2011 14:18:36 GMT 1
I have a whole list of these that bug me. I will preface this by saying, yes, I do understand that these are just movies. But things like this that are repeated over and over annoy the crap out of me.
1)No one in hollywood has ever taken a CPR class it seems, as no one ever seems to do it right. You can't actually shock a "flatline" (when the machine goes "booooooooooooooooop"). Rarely do people come back from CPR, and when they do, never do they just act like they woke up from a pleasant nap. Usually they stay comatose, and often vomit.
2)Complete novices can pick up a gun and suddenly be pulling off feats that take experienced exhibition shooters years to master.
3)Michelle Rodriguez
4)Horror movies that contain: "OH GOD OH GOD JESUS OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD JESUS OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD JESUS OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD"
5)The false scare. Character is alone, everything is quiet. SUDDENLY, A CAT. Everyone but me jumps, then breathes a collective sigh of relief. I shake my head.
6)Characters that maintain perfect hair/teeth ect, despite the fact that the live in the 1820s.
I'll come up with more later.
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Post by Mister Buch on Aug 3, 2011 4:22:47 GMT 1
Characters getting 'punched-out', i.e. the hero punches a minor villain in the face, instantly knocking him unconscious and making the audience cheer. Next time we see the villain, he is fine but pissed off, and maybe has a plaster on his nose.
I know little about medicine so Chantress et al, correct me if I'm wrong - but isn't being knocked unconscious for more than a minute or so extremely dangerous?
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Post by CAPT Issac R. Madden on Aug 3, 2011 4:29:34 GMT 1
Being knocked completely unconscious for more than a minute would imply that some pretty major damage was done, I would think. At the very least they'd have a concussion.
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Post by Mister Buch on Aug 3, 2011 4:36:10 GMT 1
Yeah, as I understand it more than a minute means serious risk of brain damage. And yet you see these punch-outs constantly on movies, sitcoms, etc.
Seems irresponsible to mislead audiences, you know? Doctor Cox did it once, and just walked away while the guy was lying still on the floor.
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Post by CAPT Issac R. Madden on Aug 3, 2011 4:51:25 GMT 1
I know what you mean. Most people who get "knocked out" are only unconscious for maybe 5 seconds and from there are awake, but incoherent. I'm saying this as a martial artist whos been on both sides of a KO and trust me, it freaking sucks.
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