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Post by Tillian Panthesis on Jan 7, 2014 3:15:11 GMT 1
What the title says.
I know my way around building these kinds of things, so you can skip a tutorial on that. What I'm really asking is what sort of components I should be buying at this time? Especially when both AMD and Intel have it's ups and downs moment, sme goes to nVidia and ATI. The thing is that there's a lot to choose from and I've been searching for some reliable answers about picking certain components to to build up a system almost from scratch. Again, there's too many, so what is the best place to look up when comparing specs and information for PC parts.
Also in case anyone really wants to nail down on what sort of PC I'm building, I would say it's a gaming PC still, but more focused on games development. Since I'm not interested in buying games that asked to be technological whore demanding, such as CoD and BF games. So, I want to build PC that does an excellent job in modeling and sculpting 3D,digital art using unity to make games, etc. While at the same time, strong enough to play Skyrim, Fallout: NV on high settings. HD would be nice, but I'm not dishing out my cash for a top end graphics card, not when I have no interest with the next gen games at the moment.
I'll worry about that scenario when the time comes, but otherwise I just want a decent workstation at the moment.
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Post by Cali on Jan 7, 2014 5:50:39 GMT 1
Video cards: ATI tends to be cheaper and has some good customer and patch support, but some companies aren't very kind to it (Bethesda and ID Software, for instance. Good luck getting Rage to work on a computer with an ATI card, even with a fanmade patch). nVidia is pretty reliable most of the time and is supported by nearly everyone, but they tend to be a tad more expensive.
Processors: AMD and Intel I know very little about. I've stuck with Intel most of my life, and I have had just about as many problems with AMD as I've had with Intel, so there's that.
As for modelling, that tends to be pretty intensive from what I hear. I'd suggest one of the best end power supplies, processors, and video cards from either company if economically feasible. You might wanna read into which modelling and design programs run best with beforehand.
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Post by jklinders on Jan 9, 2014 1:41:43 GMT 1
I find that nvidia is worth whatever markup simply because they have good driver support. Their drivers simply seem to play well with software and are updated often.
I have no opinion on processors. I really don't know much about them, I have gone intel for the past ten years and have had no complaints.
If you plan on 3D modeling...yeah you need some pretty strong stuff for that. I would not skimp on anything really. You need a good video card, or maybe one of those duel slot set ups and lots of RAM. Also, and I shudder to say this but it is something I have heard but many audio and video designers seem to prefer Apple OS for that kind of work. I don't know it's more compatible with the preferred programs or less resource intensive but I would check out what's going to give you the best bang for your buck if you plan on using this thing primarily for your digital art.
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Post by Tillian Panthesis on Jan 16, 2014 14:50:19 GMT 1
Looks like Nvidia and Intel then. I'll stick to PC, since Mac is actually pretty shitty to work on game development from my experience. Plus I need something for actual gaming.
The hard part is the specs. From the looks of it, I guess it's high end, which seems to be very painful for my wallet. I guess I have to really find a decent day job to make up for the cost.
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Post by jklinders on Jan 16, 2014 15:25:51 GMT 1
Find a reputable independent shop that will work with you on the build. For the love of mercy don't do what I did and get something from a big box retailer. You find a lot of doodads that are useless and they will skimp on what you need. I've been told I can get a solid gaming rig for around $600 CAD if I go that route. All in all, I'd start with 6 G RAM with room to expand since you will be using Windows OS you will need extra room for all of the payload Windows needs. I don't even understand the current designations of processors. I think the manufacturers obfuscate their meaning on purpose. this whole double dual core with a twist i2.4G shit makes my head spin. I remember when it was pentium 2, 3, 4. it was easy to understand. Now it's just bullshit that I need to process a whole sheet of benchmarks just to comprehend. You know, like video cards. I found this, it might be helpful, or it might be a meaningless bunch of coloured lines. But hey, there are prices too. www.cpubenchmark.net/Pretty sure these guys do video cards too. Get a nice power supply. I'd recommend no lower than 550w. otherwise nothing else will run. I wouldn't worry too much about aftermarket cooling systems unless you are in a really hot area or plan on over clocking (which I don't recommend) I bet that if you use your current monitor and talk to a reputable independent about what you are looking for, you will get exactly what you need with expansion to later get what you want for under $1000. Easily.
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Post by Tillian Panthesis on Jan 16, 2014 16:25:09 GMT 1
Thanks for the tip and more importantly, a website that I could start on looking up hardware.
I think I'll get a high end CPU with a good bank for buck, but buy a mid-range graphics card, because you said I could think about expanding things later. So yeah, once I get enough cash for a high end Graphics card, I could stick those two together and do a dual GPU run.
Sorry, if I'm not replying it properly, It's late and I need to hit the hay. I'll discuss this tomorrow. Properly.
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Post by Tillian Panthesis on Apr 20, 2015 14:54:50 GMT 1
So I've decided to go both Intel and nVidia.
Now I'm looking through the processors and I've seemed be stuck in picking out the models for motherboards. There's too many on the market to choose from.
And no, I'm not going to go the easy way and get an Alienware. I want to build this for myself. Besides, I could use that spare cash to get a mic, a webcam or something.
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Post by jklinders on Apr 20, 2015 18:06:11 GMT 1
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Post by Tillian Panthesis on Apr 21, 2015 4:09:36 GMT 1
Wow, thanks linders. That save me a lot of time. I think I'm very close to building my next-gen PC now!
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Post by Tillian Panthesis on May 27, 2015 10:21:07 GMT 1
So, I'm getting close to build myself one. got the list and the cash. Now I have a new question, should I go all the way and get myself a SLI setup or not. I have some extra funds left to do it. (That's what happens if you build the thing yourself.)
Because the cards I'm getting in the question are kind of big and I'm not sure if an SLI set might fit with my sound card as well.
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Post by jklinders on May 27, 2015 12:10:03 GMT 1
Here is a thread in a hardware forum as I have no native expertise in this. The first reply sums up my reservations in regards to going SLI caveat. You may not be getting this rig only for gaming. If you are ever going into game dev and graphics design you may need more power. Just be mindful of the downsides as well. Apparently there is sometimes issues with the cards not being fully in synch causing shit. I for one do not have that patience and having that much power running through your rig will cause a spike in both heat and power consumption. www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2188804/single-gpu-sli-crossfire.html
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Post by Tillian Panthesis on May 27, 2015 12:58:48 GMT 1
That settles then. No SLI setup, seemed too much work. It might help with graphic design, but then the cons seemed to weigh up a little more, particularly the heating issue.
I'm going to double check to see if the card in the quest I have is the best one I have on the list before I'll call in the orders. Thanks again.
EDIT: I've changed the list, this time I've got one of those recent models that sounded like a smart accountant name, due to having more cores. In short, having more cores is good for game development and design, due to helping the efficiency of multitasking.
But that also means I have to change the goddamn motherboard and other parts too, just to make sure they all played nice.
Pheh... this might going take a while...
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Post by Tillian Panthesis on Jun 1, 2015 5:53:33 GMT 1
Ordered the PC parts already. It's a matter of time when it hits my mailbox.
In the meantime while I'm waiting, I'm going to find my unopened copy of Witcher 2. Because today I got a free copy of Witcher 3, for buying one of those nVidia cards.
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Post by jklinders on Jun 1, 2015 14:02:53 GMT 1
I should look for that deal when I upgrade, I am terrified of even trying to run it on my current card, in addition to being sligjhtly below spec, it's also AMD, a double whammy in my opinion.
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Post by Tillian Panthesis on Jul 1, 2015 15:38:02 GMT 1
A word of warning if you're going to upgrade your PC to the Haswell-E Intel chipsets: It's only compatible with DDR4 ram. I've learn this the dumbass way just today when I'm building my computer.
Well, guess it's time prepare myself to sell my DDR3 ram I've just brought. And it's a good ram too. *sigh*.
Fuck my dumb dumbs.
Also sorry for the late reply, but the deal with a free copies of Witcher 3 and that Batman game offers if you buy a nVidia card on Amazon. I'm not sure if the offer still stands atm. Or know if any online retailers offers that too that I know of.
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