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Post by Tillian Panthesis on Dec 13, 2009 7:02:07 GMT 1
While many people complained about bad fan fiction, not many people bitched about sub par books. As if they held the professional writers up to a pedestrial heigh and think of them as a god for getting a book publish... Bull...Shit... I've stumbled across bad books before in my life time. Some of them are just as bad as those trashy fan fics. I mean really bad to the point you wondered yourself "How this pile of tosh get published?" Lo and behold... The Eye of Argonwww.bmsc.washington.edu/people/merritt/books/Eye_of_Argon.htmlYes... it's so bad that people recomended to read the MST version, not the raw version.
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Post by Mister Buch on Dec 14, 2009 1:27:45 GMT 1
That is very very funny.
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Post by Cali on Dec 14, 2009 2:28:04 GMT 1
The Godfather novel was pretty bad, actually. A rare example of how some movies are better than the novels they are based on. I mean, who wants to read three pages worth of an overly detailed description of Sonny Corleone getting it on with his mistress?
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Post by Tillian Panthesis on Dec 14, 2009 3:36:27 GMT 1
Another rare example of a movie that is actually better than the novel has to be Blade Runner. The book itself was decent but the movie made a vast improvement over it. Even the author admited that the movie is better than his book.
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Post by Zarsthor on Dec 14, 2009 4:28:35 GMT 1
I didn't like Blade runner the movie. Its one of those hyper movies that lives from sheer hype rather than being a good movie. It had interesting conceptual ideas but dear god the acting was appalling. I felt so ashamed of Han.
Bad books eh? Well the only book I've never been able to actually finish is 'Mere woods'. The tale of some git getting his jiggy on with a fish woman before rubbing it in the face of the human girl that loves him. Then The human girl fights with the fish woman and both become his submissive sex slaves. No seriously that's what happened but the author tried to make it look like it wasn't all about sex but it damn well was! Oh I forgot about that dick that was in it to. A fish guy that kept trying to rape the human girl but the author tried to make sure you knew it wasn't really rape because hey she's a woman and women don't know what they really want so have to be told by a man.... Bastard.
Piers Anthony is another sexist pig. I enjoyed the xanth series as long as I was ignoring the sexist undertones. I finally hit the brick wall however on my 4th or 5th book. It was that one when the sorceress is taken the piss out of a little more than usual. I think it was in A spell for Chameleon... Yeah those books were good as long as they had as few women in them as possible because Piers Anthony is a horrible man.
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Post by Mister Buch on Dec 14, 2009 13:31:33 GMT 1
I actually think I prefer 'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep' to 'Blade Runner'. Blade Runner, while very enjoyable, never quite did it for me. The characters, except Roy Baty, are all so flat and boring... and I have trouble following it. And Harrison Ford looks really, really bored and disinterested. Like he did in 'Return of the Jedi' - he's just reading the lines and wondering when lunch is.
That said, I have even more trouble following the book. But I love the characters and the SF concepts that are really explored, like the androids' lack of empathy, the Penfield mood organ, the way animals are revered. It's a brilliant world he created for the book, and it's worth reading just for that - for the pure sci-fi.
Blade Runner had magnificent music and was incredibly pretty and well-shot. But the story never impressed me, espescally after the reading the book. And it's so pretentious, that film.
AND I hate all the damn versions of the film. Films should have ONE bloody version. The version we all paid to bloody see. 'Blade Runner', you have to watch three different 'cuts' before you even know whether or not the main character was a robot. To hell with 'Blade Runner'.
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Post by Knightfall on Dec 14, 2009 23:04:54 GMT 1
There were only certain moments where Blade Runner caught my attention. The visuals, certainly, but most of the film was very boring. And yeah, you can totally tell that Harrison really didn't want to be there. From the commentary that I listened to, he was pissed off constantly about the story and filming decisions. He didn't like having to do the voiceovers and he didn't like the different endings.
But my favorite part will always be when Roy Batty saves Deckard's life, and the theme that had been building for the entire movie finally comes to a head. Beautiful scene, and worth the wait in a lot of ways. But it's still boring as hell.
I have the Final Cut edition on dvd, and there's like three different versions on it. >=O
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Post by Zarsthor on Dec 15, 2009 2:57:07 GMT 1
We bought our copy for £1.50 at blockbusters. Couldn't be asked to get the directors special cut edition super mania version though. It was only like 20p more but we decided we really wanted a cadbury's creme egg.
How has this thread on shite books turned into a discussion about Blade runner the movie?
Oh for shite books I would like to add Harry Potter and the half blood prince and Harry Potter and the deathly harrows. At least you could enjoy 1 - 5 but 6 and 7 ... what a pile of wank. Seriously. Book 6 is just Ron being horny and shagging his way through the school year and book 7 is Harry ... in a tent! Being emo...
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Post by Knightfall on Dec 15, 2009 7:47:21 GMT 1
I loved the first few Harry Potter books when I was younger, but they got kinda repetitive. It was sorta like playing through a Mario game: you know Bowser is gonna show up eventually, in some form. =/
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Post by Mister Buch on Dec 16, 2009 10:27:12 GMT 1
I only saw the movie for Half Blood Prince, but yeah, it was crap. It was just their overacted, unrealistic love lives for an hour, then a half hour of rushed plot.
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Post by Knightfall on Dec 17, 2009 3:01:33 GMT 1
I still love the third one. Alfonso Cuaron is my hero. ><
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Post by Zarsthor on Dec 17, 2009 7:48:18 GMT 1
The movies and the books segregated greatly after Phoenix. The director made a ton of story changes. Even the first two movies changed some plot so I wouldn't run any opinions of the books from the movies. I actually enjoyed the first book far more than the first movie. That movie was shocking. Best movie/book has to be the Goblet of fire. JK really stole some good plot lines for that book.
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Post by Mister Buch on Dec 18, 2009 11:55:58 GMT 1
I liked Goblet of Fire too. But I was very disappointed when the next film came around, because I though Voldemort would be, you know, in it. Goblet was really good (if hokey, unoriginal and over-acted) fun, and the reason I saw the next two. Because I wanted Voldemort to come and take over the world, like he said he was gonna. But instead the villain was... Imedla Staunton....... >
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Post by Knightfall on Dec 19, 2009 4:43:56 GMT 1
I loved how the Goblet of Fire was much darker. Diggory's death, and how the band kept playing and everyone was cheering and how the mood slowly turned to shock and horror is one of my favorite scenes in any movie. It was really crazy to me for some reason.
The fifth movie, I can't even remember most of it. Just the wand battle between Dumbledore and Voldemort. That was kind of silly.
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Post by Zarsthor on Dec 19, 2009 5:44:28 GMT 1
Yeah I rememebr how much they hyped up the Phoenix movie. "We've gone all out of the actions scenes and special efefcts and we've got this choreographer doing the wand battles..." So of course we went to see it at the Cinema and we needed ice cream afterwards to remove the bitter taste left in our mouths... God even the bookw a sbetter than that bull and they really destroyed two major pieces of plot from the book which altered the entire ending so I was utterly lost about half-way because pretty much none of it happene dint eh book. yeah soem was an improvement to the lousy book but mostly it was worse.
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