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Post by Knightfall on Nov 12, 2009 3:24:43 GMT 1
"2012" is coming out the day after tomorrow (hehe) over here. I must confess that I love disaster movies with a passion, and Roland Emmerich happens to be my favorite director.
I'm not sure what the appeal is to me. I love watching shit blow up, which is how I was able to love Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen where others could not.
Other disaster movies that are worth checking out:
The Towering Inferno The Poseidon Adventure Armageddon Deep Impact Independence Day The Day After Tomorrow Cloverfield The Day After
Basically, I'm excited. I always line up for disaster movies and any Emmerich movie that happens to come out, so this is double awesome for me. =D
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Post by Mister Buch on Nov 12, 2009 4:14:27 GMT 1
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I have so many objections to this post, Knightfall. I could write a thesis on what's wrong with this.
John Cusack is good, at least. I'm always glad to see him in a film.
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Post by Hodster on Nov 12, 2009 5:03:34 GMT 1
Independence Day Woot
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Post by Cali on Nov 12, 2009 7:06:15 GMT 1
Film is going to suck royally.
That is all.
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Post by Rascarin on Nov 12, 2009 12:15:46 GMT 1
The only disaster movie I have watched, from that list, is Cloverfield. I thought it was strange. And picking up on Transformers - I've never seen it, but I would imagine that this ( link) is a pretty good reason to see it too. I mean, that is one nice looking bike.
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Post by Zarsthor on Nov 12, 2009 18:03:32 GMT 1
Are you sure its the bike that's really nice or the bikes accessories Rascal? lol
I do like the odd disaster movie but Cloverfield was a pile of wank along with the day after tomorrow. Just can't get into modern movies nowadays. I did enjoy deep impact and independence day though. Both very good films especially independence day. Anything with Morgan freeman AND Will smith in it is fine by me.
I oddly had a disaster dream last night that woke me up in a bit of a panic. It was set on another planet where everybody apart from a small science outpost were wiped out and they built this robot. It was all fine until they went to explore some ruins. Something about ruins that scare the shit out of me.
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Post by Knightfall on Nov 12, 2009 19:26:41 GMT 1
You are all demons! Especially Buch! And yes, Rascarin, Megan Fox was the reason why everyone went to see Transformers 2. That's why there were four screenings for the midnight opening, they had the police there to keep the order afterward, and when the movie got out there were roughly 300 people out in the streets. I was in awe.
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Post by Mister Buch on Nov 12, 2009 19:58:53 GMT 1
Megan Fox is utterly gorgeous... in an artificial, unpleasant, in-Transformers-2 sort of way. This makes her far less attractive.
Dreadful actor, of course.
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Post by Rascarin on Nov 12, 2009 20:10:13 GMT 1
I don't recall ever actually paying attention to her acting...
Also, I think I've found my next desktop wallpaper.
On Topic: Disaster movies have never really appealed to me. They tend to annoy me, in a way, because you always get some idiot that thinks "IT MIGHT HAPPEN".
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Post by Zarsthor on Nov 12, 2009 21:15:38 GMT 1
The might happen people. They tend to hang out with the "the government is controlled and we are all being watched especially me because I know about all this" conspiracy people....
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Post by Cali on Nov 13, 2009 3:40:24 GMT 1
Megan Fox always has one facial expression and one tone of voice. People who say they want to see the movies she's in because "I just wanna see Megan Fox", are smooth under the skull. If anyone wanted to see Megan Fox in her full redundant plastic surgery glory it could easily be done with Google or Yahoo image searching.
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Post by Zarsthor on Nov 14, 2009 1:56:53 GMT 1
lol Very true Cali.
Well, Movie Bob said good things about 2012 so we are thinking of seeing it.
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Post by Mister Buch on Nov 14, 2009 2:04:50 GMT 1
I'm still doubting this (and doubting any affection I may have once held for Knightfall).
Who's Movie Bob?
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Post by Zarsthor on Nov 14, 2009 2:19:26 GMT 1
Movie bob is a bearded god of movie criticism. I trust him because he thinks Megan Fox is a douche.... he's on the escapist magazine.
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Post by Knightfall on Nov 14, 2009 4:18:17 GMT 1
2012: The Review
Just got back from seeing 2012 today, and I gotta say that I'm still excited about it. Even though I think it's probably the best movie I've seen all year (I'd even go so far as to say that I enjoyed it more than Star Trek), it might be very hard to recommend this to anyone who isn't willing to look past the mindless moments.
The movie starts out with a fifteen minute montage that sets up the events that will eventually transpire, mostly centering around the preparation and the backroom deals that will lead up to the salvation of the human race. Then, the movie gets started and things pick up rather fast.
The characters are very grab bag. Chances are that you'll get attached to one or two of them while finding the others lacking. I immediately empathized with the main character, Jackson Curtis, on account of the fact that he's an honest novelist who never made it big when he got published, and his constant focus on writing caused troubles for him. Obviously, that part of his character gets lost somewhere between LA and Las Vegas getting destroyed. But it's his book that presents the most glaring theme of the movie.
The action is amazing. Simply put, some of the best CG action sequences I've ever seen. There are so many little details within each set, and so many things going on that they're just a marvel to look at. And some are downright entertaining. Emmerich does much of his communication through ironic little scenes that you might miss if you blink. I never wanted any of it to end.
One of the main themes, that was just right up my alley, is religion and the divine: miracles to be specific. There was a quote from a show called "Trigun" that I always refer to, and that is, "You don't need God for a miracle." Emmerich plays with this theme so damn much. From a crack forming between Adam and God on Michelangelo's "Creation of Adam" fresco in the Sistine Chapel, to the destruction of Christ the Redeemer. In the end, through all the prayers and scripture of the many different religions depicted, it was humanity toward fellow men that saved more lives than God.
Other little religious themes are more apparent. This entire movie is essentially a modern retelling of Noah's Ark. There is a character named Noah. The ships in the movie are called "Arks". These are obvious, but you will find many other religious subtexts throughout the movie. Again, if you blink, you will miss it. Emmerich knew this was going to be an action movie, but he secretly made a religious statement when no one was watching. And I've yet to read a review that acknowledged it.
What it all comes down to is that the people that are ultimately being saved are the highest bidders. The main question the movie poses is: Can it be completely morally or ethically justified to have a completely utilitarian view when it comes to big decisions? It devolves into a question of eugenics, utility, and money. And it takes a very odd intervention to put that question in its place. One that I didn't really see coming.
And if we can look into the abyss and still care about the person next to us, instead of the use of that person, then that is the moment we retain our humanity. That is what the movie is all about.
This disaster movie, at a glance, may appear to be something akin to any Michael Bay movie, and in some cases it is. This is supposed to be a fun movie, but through the cornball acting and lapses in logic, there is one underlying message that was interesting to find. This sets it miles apart from movies like Transformers 2, the fact that it's actually trying to say something, however subtle. That everyone, if they're truly honest with themselves, can make a difference--for the better.
Or you can just watch shit blow up for nearly three hours, it's up to you.
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