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Post by Clint Johnston on Apr 24, 2015 23:41:45 GMT 1
He did good! He narrated that magnificently, even if he got the most important fact of the story wrong. Samaritans were part of a Jewish Sect, descendants of the 10 tribes that got exiled by the Assyrians, and had the "heretical" belief that they should worship God on Mount Gerizim instead of the Temple Mount. Therefore the sting of the story to the audience (A group of Lawyers & Levites among others) was that a social outcast was better than they were.
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Post by jklinders on Apr 24, 2015 23:50:09 GMT 1
*shrugs* I would argue that he would not have had the scholarship on the bible to remember all of the pertinent details. he himself admitted that he was neither religious nor well studied. He got the part that was important to him and that scene right and the scene was not ruined for the inaccuracies.
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Post by Lily Ariel Linders on Apr 24, 2015 23:52:27 GMT 1
I may be remembering my Sunday School wrong - I remember being taught in Sunday School (granted, this was when I was a child - so 25 years ago or thereabouts) that the twist of the story was that the Samaritans did not get along at all with the people the injured man was from... and that this was the reason that it was considered a shock that the Samaritan helped the wounded traveler. {{ EDIT: I might also argue that I interpreted the point of the "Good Samaritan" story (when told by Jesus to his listeners) to be that Race and / or Religion does not matter; all that matters is that you are a good person who helps people in need regardless of who they are.}} Anyway, either way, D'Onofrio really really sold that scene... I was on the edge of my seat while he was narrating that story... and then when he got to the line "That I am not the Samaritan..." I was floored. I thought at first he was having an epiphany / heel-face-turn, a moment of self-realization regarding his own villainy and I thought maybe he felt sorry for it... but then he said "I am the ill intent..." with such chilling frost in his tone , and I thought "Well, damn, the shite's about to his the fan big time here!"
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Post by Clint Johnston on Apr 25, 2015 14:40:54 GMT 1
That's about right. It was told in response to the question (asked by a Lawyer trying to get technical) "But who is my neighbor?" (Which in itself was a response to Jesus saying that that all the law boiled down to 2 principles: "Love the Lord your God with all of your heart, soul and mind, and love your neighbor as yourself.")
Essentially, everyone is. Too many Christians forget that part these days.
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Post by Lily Ariel Linders on Apr 25, 2015 15:32:23 GMT 1
Now, with that whole "Samaritan / Ill Intent" story in mind, I wonder how this epiphany of Fisk's will color his future actions in Season 2 of Daredevil? Now that he realizes that his actions were not to help people as he had previously deluded himself to think, but are instead purely for personal gain and power? Also, now that Wesley is gone (and may I say - wow, that was a shocking scene when Karen killed Wesley!) and Wesley seemed to be the thing holding Fisk together... with Wesley gone and Fisk's fear for Vanessa's safety, is his growing paranoia going to make him even more chaotic than usual?
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Post by Cali on Apr 25, 2015 16:26:14 GMT 1
Just finished episode 3. All I gotta say about it is:
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Post by Mr. Glow on Apr 25, 2015 19:18:23 GMT 1
Has it woken you up inside?
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Post by Cali on Apr 25, 2015 19:46:47 GMT 1
Has it woken you up inside? Like a bag full of electric nachos.
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Post by jklinders on Apr 25, 2015 21:28:04 GMT 1
Had another thought on the bus ride home. Madame Gao was a free agent and was utterly independent of anything the other syndicates had going. there was something off about her. Something not of this world i am thinking. She was the one who more than anyone gave Fisk the push to darkness. She was the one who posed the point that Fisk had both light and darkness in him. she told him that he needed to wholeheartedly commit to one or the other. We see him come to that choice in the end with not only no regrets but conviction. Was this some kind of game to her, or is Fisk a pawn in a bigger plan than he can see? Remember we are talking about a seemingly frail old lady who knocked Matt on his ass with a single blow.
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Post by Mr. Glow on Apr 25, 2015 21:56:25 GMT 1
Fisk's in this for himself. Madame Gao's from Kun'lun. I have no idea why she'd be spurring Fisk on, though. I really hope they do cast Walton Goggins as Bullseye in Season 2. Also, every scene where he meets Matt should have him going, "Wellll, hello Daredevil!" In case you can't tell, I'm not over Justified ending.
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Post by Warhammer Gorvar on Apr 25, 2015 23:58:11 GMT 1
Stop watching obscure cop shows for FACK' sake, Glow! Jeeeez!
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Post by Cali on Apr 26, 2015 0:32:56 GMT 1
Well, Gorvar. Dunno about you, but I actually have been meaning to watch Justified since it takes place in my home state.
It's just me, though.
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Post by Cali on Apr 26, 2015 0:39:44 GMT 1
Also, this song shoulda totally played in every scene with the Russian Brothers Circle members.
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Post by Mr. Glow on Apr 26, 2015 1:13:33 GMT 1
If you do, I implore you to realise it doesn't get truly good until S2 where it has Margo Martindale as the villain and Jeremy Davies as her henchman/son
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Post by Clint Johnston on Apr 26, 2015 16:16:36 GMT 1
Justified is not bad. Timothy Olyphant is likeable and the story interesting. I haven't pursued watching it because I've been into other things, but it's on my "someday" list.
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