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Post by Mister Buch on Feb 9, 2015 23:48:02 GMT 1
Yes, like those big things from The Dark Crystal, it's long past time I slumped off somewhere and turned into a load of light. I'm flouncing off and 'leaving the site'.Various reasons, the big personal row with the mod the other day among them. Linders and Lily, please do me a favour and leave this thread alone. The site has always been changing, but it's just been a long time since it was the way I loved it. Many many happy memories for me - I met friends and developed hobbies here! - but not lately. - I think I'm actually in contact elsewhere with almost everyone! Glow if I don't hear from you again then your sense of humour will never be matched! Facebook here and email on my profile if anyone wants it. Ta ra! Thanks to many people for many many good times.
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Post by Clint Johnston on Feb 10, 2015 1:04:06 GMT 1
Well, damn. I'm never correcting Gorvar's spelling again.
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Post by Mister Buch on Feb 10, 2015 1:09:40 GMT 1
Not in any way your fault, cap'n. It was a long time coming.
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Post by CAPT Issac R. Madden on Feb 10, 2015 4:22:28 GMT 1
I'm not privy to nor part of the row that caused your decision to leave, but I'm curious. Why are you leaving rather than trying to see things how others see them? You and I very rarely see eye-to-eye on politics, but on things not politically-inclined you and I are rather alike. As was posted by another long-time member: it appears you look for the good in people while I expect the worst. It's probable that's a result of our differing backgrounds and I hold no judgement on that.
However, here's the rub: within recent weeks, I posted (without quoting you in my reply) that I agreed with your stance on the subject without quarrel. Rather than acknowledge what common ground we have despite our legendary disagreements, what do you do? You edit your post with pseudo-moralistic nonsense just because I posted it. I guarantee if Clint, Cali, Linders, or virtually everyone else on the board had posted what I did, you would have posted something like "Cheers" or a more thoughtful reply than the following, quoted verbatim "EDIT: I am morally opposed to the beard and only an idiot would grow one."
I held my tongue and didn't fully call you out on that childish retraction, merely calling what you did "dirty pool". In reality, I was seething. I comment that along with your mate Glow, I approve of beards and you edit your post like that? What kind of vindictive person pulls something like that? I know the answer: the kind of person who is so biased and, dare I say, bigoted against the views of another person, they must resort to such primary school nonsense when they realize the person they don't like is supportive of them.
I've said it many times over, and I'll say it once more: you and I clearly disagree on several key issues in politics; chief among them my stance on ownership of personal arms. Now, I will admit I did come across more as a zealot than a reasoned human being in several of my posts as I freely admit I had not considered some factors and that colored my posts.
However, I am more than willing to admit when I am wrong when proven such and learn from the experience. You, on the other hand, make a habit of making comments more callous than I unintentionally make in the heat of the moment and then cry "victim" when someone calls you out on it.
You want to play the victim card? You want to play it like that? So be it. The gloves are off now and perhaps you might be able to scrape some semblance of justification from what I'm saying now. I'm beyond caring at this point.
You, Chris Buchanan are an adult-aged male who dabbles in poetry and writing, who has not made anything of himself despite his bluster, who claims to bust his backside off to get a job as a proofreader at a library local to you. You're nearly ten years older than I, but you constantly respond to any post I have that so much as remotely agrees with your position with disdain, veiled personal insults, and passive-aggressive tendencies apparently meant to manipulate yourself into being the victim in case you lose an argument. Your lack of research, or indeed lack of desire to know the facts, of many issues for the sake of jumping on the bandwagons of popular rants under a pseudo-moralistic banner seemingly show you lack any true opinion of your own. Not long ago, you posted a series of gifs of a Feminist speaker saying women were being shamed into certain acts like sitting with their legs closed when wearing a skirt. Yet, if someone calls a Scotsman out for wearing a kilt and letting it all hang out, no one bats an eye. Can you even comprehend the double-standard in that? The bottom line between keeping one's legs closed when wearing a kilt or skirt is simple: no one wants to see your junk so stop flashing it. That applies evenly. Yet, instead of forming your own opinion, you jump on the bandwagon and claim sexism without going into the fact that people generally don't want to see that kind of thing in their day-to-day lives, male or female.
Going back to my apprehension to women joining the infantry: I point out that standard military physical qualifications for women are about 50% of what men must maintain, and you again call foul. Instead of debating me on a logical level about my assertion that a person not being physically capable of doing the job under the current regulations being legitimate, practical issue, man or woman and women being held to lower standards but being required to carry the same weight (nearly 45 kilos of gear for their own loadout, not to mention physically larger people who are wounded and still have THEIR gear on) as men who literally end up having bodies of 80 year olds at the age of 30 from the wear and tear that causes, you simply call me a misogynist and rage-quit. Just because I stated something you don't agree with and apparently are too lazy to research and provide a logical argument to debate against me with.
Now... leaving out our disagreements, how many times have I publicly stated that you and I do indeed have some traits and interests in common and offer the proverbial olive branch? I recall at least three such situations before you decided to routinely ignore any topic posted with me as the author and every single time, even when other forum members saw the potential common ground, you snubbed all of my attempts at finding a way of co-existing save for the time I said "let's just agree to disagree and grab a pint at the pub". When you snubbed my attempts at trying to find a common ground with you, you not only insulted me, but you all but blatantly called those who saw the same common ground stupid for the sake of whatever personal self-image you have of yourself. All the while crying you're the victim while somehow saying you're a champion of morals despite not having the maturity to admit when you're wrong or even in recent months so much as providing a strong, reasoned argument for your side of the situation. Instead, you make personal attacks, change the subject, and all-around act like a 3rd year primary schoolboy who just got told he's not getting a gold star from the teacher just because he deigned to be present for class.
With all that said, feel free to leave. Your staying or leaving won't change my participation on the boards and this entire post consists of my personal observations which I've made ever since I first joined so I could share my fic with others while wrestling with FF.net. Stay or go, that's your choice. But if you're going to go, then go. Don't leave these little sniping insults in your wake. After all, if you wish to bask in the light, you shouldn't contribute to the darkness.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 4:45:03 GMT 1
I...have nothing to do with anything that is going on here but you sir Issac seem like an entirely respectable and well off person. Good day I say!
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Post by Clint Johnston on Feb 10, 2015 6:02:53 GMT 1
Wow. Iron, that was... kind of uncalled for. The thing about the beard was a very obvious joke, based on the long-standing political opposition you two appear to have. AKA if I said I was for Cowboy hats, then you agreed with me, so I reversed course immediately, rather than be seen as in agreement. Standard hyperbole.
While Buch's leave of absence is regrettable and the issues the other day contributed to it, there was more to it than that. Furthermore, even if there wasn't, ever heard of the benefit of the doubt? All this post was was a courtesy notification so that those persons who wondered where he was might have a method of contacting him, and you've turned it into the Weakest Link.
Damn, man.
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Post by Cali on Feb 10, 2015 8:09:04 GMT 1
I hate this forum sometimes.
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Post by jklinders on Feb 10, 2015 10:51:43 GMT 1
I know I was asked to stay out of this thread but, can we take a shot at being civil here? We have had enough fighting this week.
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Post by Warhammer Gorvar on Feb 10, 2015 10:55:13 GMT 1
Well....guess I'm king of the forum now? KNEEL BEFORE GORVAR!
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Post by Battlechantress on Feb 11, 2015 8:39:13 GMT 1
Um, I'm with Clint on this (re: Iron). That's all I've got to say. Oh, and yes, I guess the Dino King wants us to... besides kneel, do what exactly?
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Post by Warhammer Gorvar on Feb 11, 2015 10:14:44 GMT 1
Shit, didn't think of that...urghm...carry on.
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Post by Clint Johnston on Feb 11, 2015 17:44:37 GMT 1
My knees are hurting. Can I get up so I may prepare your royal snack?
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Post by Warhammer Gorvar on Feb 11, 2015 18:19:43 GMT 1
Sure, get me the paper as well while you are at it. Cali, Chantress. You two fight to the death.
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Post by Battlechantress on Feb 11, 2015 20:06:36 GMT 1
/raises eyebrow at the tacky weapon Kirk and Spock used
"That sounds exhausting."
/walks into the kitchen, grabs the Polish vodka, Crown Royal, 2 liter bottle of Coke, Maker's Mark, Captain Morgan Private Stock, two cups, one bottle of sriracha sauce, and two bottles of Bitburgen. Sets them up on the living room table.
"Are you trying to kill yourself?"
"Nah. I figure if we survive the impending liver failure, the hangovers will be so bad that we'll both wish we were dead. Which will make Gorvar just as happy. Let's begin."
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I'm off
Feb 11, 2015 22:15:17 GMT 1
Post by Cali on Feb 11, 2015 22:15:17 GMT 1
"You're on, horse lady."
*Starts knocking back large bottle of Early Times*
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