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Post by Nord Ronnoc on Sept 7, 2014 1:04:43 GMT 1
Wanna see how screwed up things are on 4chan's end? Here it is. Quinn took matters into her own hands and pretty much confirmed what I was thinking.
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Post by jklinders on Sept 7, 2014 1:39:50 GMT 1
Assuming this shit isn't doctored (she has this kind of free time to lurk in these sewers?) I need to ask what I thought would be obvious. Should anyone be surprised that there are asshats in 4chan? If the only place she is looking into things is the hotbed of where all of the hate for her is coming from should anyone be surprised at what she finds? this does not justify 4chan's actions in this but it does nothing to negate her part in highlighting the industry corruption in the gaming media's side of things.
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Post by Nord Ronnoc on Sept 7, 2014 1:52:43 GMT 1
What a load of crap, coming from you. Kotaku has investigated it and the journalist who was involved had never written a review of her game. They found no wrongdoing. Want the proof? Here's everything so far by Vox.
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Post by Cali on Sept 7, 2014 4:33:36 GMT 1
Well, what I got from the Storify page is that it's creepy how influential 4chan was on the saner critics of Quinn...
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Post by jklinders on Sept 7, 2014 11:50:31 GMT 1
What a load of crap, coming from you. Kotaku has investigated it and the journalist who was involved had never written a review of her game. They found no wrongdoing. Want the proof? Here's everything so far by Vox. Take it easy bub. It's not a load of crap when you are looking for evidence of people hating you in the place that people hate you. I fucking said myself that the writer she was screwing had not written about her game after the fact in my very first post in this thread. I also posted several level headed summaries of this mess in that same post. that does not change the fact that this idiot is lurking in places where she is hated and saying "look, people here hate me for no reason." my response to that is a resounding "no fucking shit Sherlock." That is absolutely not a fucking load of crap. I have never fucking expressed any approval for 4chan's actions in this as I also fucking said in my first post in this topic where I said "don't listen to this list of people" 4chan being one of those sources. Anyone who lets 4chan influence them in this was probably already an misogynistic prick in the first place. not too much of a stretch given that they spend time in 4chan which is hardly a hotbed of inclusion. And using Vox as a source? Do you have an article from the National Enquirer to bolster that as well? If I am coming off as ranty, it's probably because I touched on all this shit in my first post and you blew right past it in your rush to smack me with your self righteous bat.
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Post by Cali on Sept 8, 2014 6:15:23 GMT 1
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Post by Tillian Panthesis on Sept 8, 2014 7:36:18 GMT 1
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Post by jklinders on Sept 8, 2014 10:13:19 GMT 1
Since what has been happening at 4chan has been brought into this I figured I would post an update about these chat logs mentioned above. Whatever passes for a site admin in that mass of chaos called 4chan has released what they are calling the full unedited chat logs of the conversations that Quinn lurked on. It's a long read and I didn't bother sifting through it but there are quite a few folks claiming that they refute and contradict Quinn's own interpretation of the events to the point where she may have deliberately taken them out of context. The discussion thread linked to the article will have that, or if you really have the time you can sift through the logs yourself. It's all linked below. Again, 4chan cannot really be called a proper organized group and no one speaks for them. I also stand by my assertion that Quinn was fishing in their chat groups looking for dirt which every group in every corner of the internet is going to have. Creditability does not really exist here but it does provide context for those who want it. www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/137293-Exclusive-Zoe-Quinn-Posts-Chat-Logs-Debunking-GamerGate-4Chan-and-Quinn-Respond
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Post by CAPT Issac R. Madden on Sept 8, 2014 17:01:30 GMT 1
Haven't read through all the logs yet, but from what I'm seeing so far, the kind of stuff Quinn's calling out is pretty standard 4chan poo-flinging. Of course what I'm seeing so far makes it appear as if she went and deliberately smacked the troll nest with a cricket bat.
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Post by jklinders on Sept 16, 2014 10:50:18 GMT 1
Another chestnut from this fiasco. Julian Assange of Wikileaks was answering questions in a Reddit thread when a guy was shadobanned for asking him about gamergate. For context, apparently a shadowban is when it looks to the person who was banned that nothing is wrong and posts show up, but to everyone else it's automatically removed as spam. They did this right in front of one of the most obsessive free speech advocates in the world. I'm not a fan of Assange at all but this was extremely ballsy. The mods tried to say he was shadowbanned several days earlier but allowed that post through because it was innocuous. I call BS on that, once you ban someone, you wash your hands of them and move on, no one keeps monitoring their shit. Also, if you are going to ban someone, nut up and let them know you are banning them. You have other tools to stop them from socking accounts under other handles. Another nugget it hat there are some really slimy people offering Super Smash Brothers 4 game codes to people who post misogynistic or otherwise inflammatory posts under the #gamergate hashtag. www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.858347-Zoe-Quinn-and-the-surrounding-controversy?page=790#21392927It's going all out infowars on one of the stupidest issues I have ever seen blow up. this was just as I was getting ready to forget it happened as it seemed to be boiling down a bit. I really would not have cared about this whole thing at all if was not for how over the top the response to it was. I remain adamant that the response that the media has shown to this is far more interesting than the original issue.
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Post by Cali on Sept 16, 2014 23:35:35 GMT 1
Never in a million years would I have thought this would have been such a fiery, near-cataclysmic issue.
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Post by jklinders on Sept 17, 2014 0:00:51 GMT 1
Damn near thermonuclear isn't it?
I'm just glad google hasn't steered any of those lunatics here yet. I really don't wanna spend my upcoming vacation babysitting them or helping to decorate their padded cells.
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Post by Cali on Sept 17, 2014 1:45:16 GMT 1
Yeah, we'd probably have to declare a state of martial law or hire more mods. The latter which is terrifying considering that I don't know anyone here (besides maybe Gorvar or Buch) who's active or non-crazy enough to be a mod.
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Post by Lily Ariel Linders on Sept 17, 2014 1:49:32 GMT 1
Thanks, Cal.
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Post by Cali on Sept 17, 2014 1:51:05 GMT 1
This forum is a madhouse, and we all know. ;D
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